XHip--Please finish your synth!!

[JedEverton]

Just donated all the money in my bank toward this vst ....

Seven pence

Cant wait until completion!!

[aciddose]

i've got the emailer working for the xhip forum, so keeping track of updates is easy that way by giving an email and setting the betas/whatever thread as watched. i assume some people have this thread watched, so that fixes that.

latest update: i've fixed the problems with sync and so it's now perfect - no aliasing anywhere for any reason (except a tiny bit on the shaped sine, since that shaper is not anti-aliased)

[grymmjack]

also just to exclaim "I'm not dead!"
"What?"
"Nothing. There's your ninepence."
"I'm not dead."
"'Ere, he says he's not dead. "
"Yes he is."
"I'm not."
"He isn't."
"Well, he will be soon, he's very ill."
"I'm getting better."
"No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment."
"Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations."
"I don't want to go on the cart."
"Oh, don't be such a baby. "

One of the best parts if the movie.

Do you feel happy?!

Lol

[Beno.]

ahh, i miss 2006!! where did it go?

1.0 you say? that will be interesting to test!

Ben

[aciddose]

http://xhip.presetexchange.com/temp/hoooo.mp3

done with latest version (not updated) + newer effects

http://xhip.presetexchange.com/temp/h0002.mp3 (accidentally used mono )

[ocmtime]

is there a way to get the old versions of xhip .I miss the one with many note priority mono modes and a very dense unison

[aciddose]

the one on the site has that. if you want a specific older version i can get it for you, but you probably also want the bugfixes in the current version.

i've been working on a new version too, but it isn't ready yet. that's also available if anybody wants to try it out.

for specific stuff about xhip, can you use the forum accessible from the xhip site? that'll help to keep the size of the kvr threads down to reasonable levels.

see my sig below.

[Mutant]

available if anybody wants to try it out

I am pretty sure that a lot of us want you to continue improving Xhip and to try the new betas, but only few want to join another new forum

Xhip is still in my top 3 most beloved synths (actually 1st for sounds that require use of the excellently implemented full unison).

[aciddose]

well if only there were some way to avoid having mega-threads about it. i also don't want people who are just looking to try the synthesizer to end up reading the betas thread or downloading beta versions rather than the "stable" version. so it's better to keep discussion about new versions, features, testing and so on out of the public eye. accessible to everyone - but not advertised.

the latest one i have has some changes to the oscillator and huge optimization. i got held up trying to implement a anti-aliased triangle. it's partly that i haven't done it before so minor mistakes mess it up, but also partly that i'm not 100% certain what i'm doing.

basically, the normal waveforms with sharp edges have a "slope" added to them with some ringing to eliminate the aliasing. the sharp edges are pretty much replaced by this anti-aliased slope, which is called a band limited step, or "blep".

for triangles things are slightly more complicated. you can produce a triangle shape by filtering (integrating) a square. so, in theory you should also be able to insert blep pulses onto the aliased triangle by integrating the blep impulse twice rather than just once. unfortunately i can't get this to work yet.

the old method of integrating a square works brilliantly, the output is perfect - but sync and xmod are not as perfect that way. hopefully i can find a reference implementation somewhere and figure out what i'm doing wrong. it could be something ridiculously simple and overlooked, or i might be going about it entirely the wrong way.

the other issues i need to deal with are with block processing. i've switched xhip to be processed in 8 sample blocks rather than every sample. that makes it take up about 1/5th the amount of cpu. in most cases (not involving per-sample pwm or similar) the sound is identical. there are a couple problems with having to smooth out the changes in parameters like cutoff though, and in the filter for example parameters like cutoff, resonance and saturation actually interact. it's possible (i've done it before) to get it working right, but it's quite fiddly to get the numbers right for everything.

[jpumphandle]

Here's a track with 3 instances of Xhip. whipped together on a netbook.
She Passed Me By

[aciddose]

have you tried the latest xhipeffects?

i'm not sure what you used for reverb, but you might want to check this out: http://xhip.presetexchange.com/temp/ad_ ... static.zip

cool track, you could probably get a clearer sound if you cut some of the high freq on the drums, and put it onto the synth parts instead. so about -6db 4000hz on drums, +6db 4000hz on synths. that's just a guess, it might need a lot less to brighten it up. since xhip doesn't have an eq, you couldn't really do it there. what you could do assuming the 2nd filter wasn't used is apply a lowpass 6db to the drum parts with a highpass 6db to the synth parts. you'd need to use a lower cutoff for the highpass though and the effect might be too extreme that way.

[jpumphandle]

Only so much can go on in my 1.6ghz Atom cpu netbook before 100% shuts it down.

Maybe later, when I have access to more CPU power, I'll try some of your suggestions. I'm also working with earbuds, so can't do a lot.

Nice thing about Xhip, it's fairly easy on the CPU, if you don't tweak too much.

[aciddose]

in that case, you could try the version here:
http://xhip.presetexchange.com/alpha/re ... .18.0b.zip

this is not a stable release - some things don't work _at all_. other things are changed and don't work the same way. some of the presets work 'ok' and for general use this version might show a significant cpu savings. (the control section isn't available, no xmod, no filter cutoff or res mod, etc)

also, it requires the crt, http://xhip.presetexchange.com/crt/

get that if it won't open.

[75ips]

@aciddose What's the coolest track you've heard anybody do with xhip?

[aciddose]

i'd have to say back in 2003, i forget his handle actually. the original version of xhip had the oscillator levels at +6db so the filter was a bit more squeltchey by default - although you can still do it intentionally just by setting the levels to +6db.

there were some covers of snes music, chrono trigger, BOB, ff3 and a few others that i thought sounded really particularly cool. not for being terribly original, but that they sounded _ideally_ like you'd expect a polysynth such as a jupiter-8 to sound.

ben george's "xhips n' fish" was also pretty cool, not for the sound necessarily but the melody and feel of the track. that's available on the xhip page, in the demos.

djsubject also did a track which was cool, although not really my preferred flavor.

i don't get to hear many full tracks either because not many people share them, or because they don't get made. i'm not sure which is the case. if people are producing lots of stuff i'd love to hear it, whether or not xhip is used in a highlighted position.

banging out a track or two and posting it whether it's crap or not is more what i'm used to. kvr seems a lot more shy about whatever it's members are doing music-wise. you might notice that i'll post mp3s any time i make them because that's just how it's supposed to work from my experience. i've spent a lot of time in the tracker-scene IRC channels where the concept is basically that cranking out something vaguely musical and sharing it is the whole point. it allows people to reflect off each other's works and expand that way. the musical 'genres' coming out of an artist who just does music as a pass-time is a whole lot different than what people tend to aim at accomplishing when they put the cart in front of the horse.