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Ch00rD · Post by **Ch00rD** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:49 pm

Glad you like her new robe too.

Urs wrote:I have neat plans for this kind of treatment. But it needs a bit more coding, which I'll do next year.

Nice.

I'm really digging the LED hue control already. Extending that trick to the outer panel would be awesome, and very handy to distinguish between different instances -- if your CPU can afford to run more than one instance, at least.

I also like the spaghetti-less modifications panel btw. Much neater.

A few questions: will we be able to stack more than 4 voices? We'd need 6 voices to emulate the chord mode of the Alpha Juno (and for Jupiter-like unison we'd even need 8, right?). The GUI layout suggests we can use up to 8 different voice modulation settings, so I guess it would make sense to bump the voice stack maximum to 8 at some point?

Also, as regards keyboard tracking of the filter cut-off frequency turned on, the point where the cut-off is the same as the fundamental oscillator frequency (at 8') now seems to be centered on value 64. I think I've seen mentioned somewhere in this thread that the filter-cutoff value would be the same as the MIDI note number for that frequency (so it would have to be 60 rather than 64). Is this something that is still up for change? (I imagine it's quite a hassle for people working on patches to change stuff at this point...) I'd be much more comfortable with the MIDI note number scheme anyway.

I'd also like to be able to use similar values for MIDI CC# to get to exact 'musical' filter tunings, whereas currently the CC# values scale over the entire range in a somewhat uncomfortable way. For example, when sending a CC# value of 36 to the filter cut-off, the corresponding value becomes 64.29, for 35 it becomes 63.33. I'd much prefer to have a CC# value of 64 correspond to 64.00, etc.

On a related note, please add my vote for more exact filter cut-off tracking over larger ranges (whether optional or not). I really love to use high resonance that is tuned very exactly, and it's a bit frustrating when such patches don't work as planned over a large range of keys (even though it does also have its charms).

bg · Post by bg » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:54 pm

I want to compare sounds. Can the two beta versions co-exist on mac?
Do I need to rename anything to keep from overwriting?

Mogular · Post by **Mogular** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:03 pm

I have been running them side by side in Ableton Live - using an instance as AU and another VST. The AU is the most current version while the VST is the previous beta.
It gets a bit finicky though. Make sure you open the AU first and then the VST second, otherwise you wont be able to open the AU gui.
Also, I seem to get bursts of demo white noise and static from the (old beta) VST now that I have put my serial number into the AU (very gentle and not at all offensive mind you).

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:31 pm

bg wrote:I want to compare sounds. Can the two beta versions co-exist on mac?
Do I need to rename anything to keep from overwriting?

On Windows i use a renamed version of the old version which works nicely.
I also use different folders for the old and new version including the presets.

Ingo

bg · Post by bg » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:32 am

Thanks, Mogular and Ingo. My host, DP, is AU-only so can't try the AU + VST solution. I tried simply renaming the AU Component to Diva468, but only 360 loaded. Pulled out 360 and 468 loaded. I'm afraid to mess with Show Package Contents, don't know what I'm doing. It's ok. I was curious to compare, but no biggie.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:20 am

Ch00rD wrote:
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Ch00rD, put that image up again so we can see it (I see an x)! I checked out the side panels - this is one sexy Diva! But not sure about the purple...

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:46 am

In your opinions . . . are the new VSTI's . . . especially Diva . . . good enough to replace synth sample libraries? I say this because I have a lot of sample libraries like Juno 106, Jupiter 8, D-50, Korg Workstations, Moog, Moog Taurus Bass, Seq Circuits, etc. . . . I would love to simplify things and free up space as long as I am not sacrificing sound.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:00 am

tommyzai wrote:In your opinions . . . are the new VSTI's . . . especially Diva . . . good enough to replace synth sample libraries? I say this because I have a lot of sample libraries like Juno 106, Jupiter 8, D-50, Korg Workstations, Moog, Moog Taurus Bass, Seq Circuits, etc. . . . I would love to simplify things and free up space as long as I am not sacrificing sound.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

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I'd take DIVA over a sample library any day of the week. Seriously, not even close.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:21 am

tommyzai wrote:In your opinions . . . are the new VSTI's . . . especially Diva . . . good enough to replace synth sample libraries? I say this because I have a lot of sample libraries like Juno 106, Jupiter 8, D-50, Korg Workstations, Moog, Moog Taurus Bass, Seq Circuits, etc. . . . I would love to simplify things and free up space as long as I am not sacrificing sound.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

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I think it's a good question, as a recent example I'll use the new "Pro II" from Wave Alchemy. Take a listen to the audio demos and then take a listen to Diva. I would say Diva definitely is good enough to replace analog synth sample libraries. Just get Diva and forget about the rest.

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:03 am

I've never been happy with synth sample libraries . . . so limiting. I would even prefer Nexus over them. I have been hesitant to dump the samples because I thought I could use them to layer with to fatten and warm things up, but if a synth like Diva can do it alone . . . is there any reason to keep a synth sample library at this time?

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:18 am

The only reason really is if you don't have a fast enough CPU, or maybe if you don't want to program anything.

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:32 am

It seems most Diva beta users agree that Diva can rival or surpass any other VSTi analogs.
So, I think the next question is . . .
Is Diva good enough to replace actual analog(ue) samples?

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djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:40 am

tommyzai wrote:It seems most Diva beta users agree that Diva can rival or surpass any other VSTi analogs.
So, I think the next question is . . .
Is Diva good enough to replace actual analog(ue) samples?

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Yes.

Mogular · Post by **Mogular** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:57 am

Wasn't that the original question?

The answer is yes anyway

DrWashington · Post by **DrWashington** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:59 am

Yes. Absolutely. This is the very first softsynth I've come across (and I've bought many, including Sylenth1, Alchemy, lots of Arturia, xils lab, etc, etc, etc) that is FULLY convincing.

So, yes. This is about as good as analog emulation gets. It absolutely destroys my Virus Rack XL (which I sold a while back). This... sounds... analog.

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