Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

[Caine123]

do you know any plug that does that similarly?

To add martinjuenke´s list:

Kilohearts Carve EQ
IK Match EQ
Ozone EQ
Fabfilter EQ

I haven´t tested these, I just presume it´ll work with sidechaining pink noise (or other ways) to them and use match eq.
Edit: I prefer static curves, i didn´t like Gullfoss constantly bumping low and high end.

1. Gullfoss is constantly dynamic not static
2. U can exclude upper and lower frequencies

sorry martin i quoted you cause of the poster after you.



These are or can be dynamic too:
iZotope Neutron 3
Zynaptiq Unfilter
Sonible Smart EQ
TDR Nova GE

oh f**k now i quoted and posted in quotes lol! yeah i shouldnt post on mobile...

[sonicpowa]

-- there's also oeksound Soothe, but it's also Pace so f**k that off as well.

Have you tried Melda MSpectralDynamics?

[martinjuenke]

1. Gullfoss is constantly dynamic not static
2. U can exclude upper and lower frequencies

Yes it´s dynamic, I was just offering options. Dynamic isn´t always best choice. And you can exlude upper/lower freqs with pink noise, altough not as elegantly.

tbh i really like it for knocking out resonances on raw recording and it track's pitch pretty well in that regard. I know Neutron3 has pitch tracking, but i found it less effective than gullfoss in that manner.

Others are dynamic but don't really track.
Unfilter is also Pace so f**k that off.
Sonible didn't really sound good.
there's also oeksound Soothe, but it's also Pace so f**k that off as well.

ugh.

Then try TDR Nova GE.
It has a specific function to de-resonate dynamically your tracks.
Quite good.

[jbraner]

Of course - why you would want to "correct" pink noise is another question.
I'm guessing that the algorithm is geared more to "music"
and Gullfoss does this very well.

[plexuss]

-- there's also oeksound Soothe, but it's also Pace so f**k that off as well.

Have you tried Melda MSpectralDynamics?

MSD is a mega-multi-band dynamics processor not a multi-band(ish) eq like gullfoss.

I used Gullfoss in a production during the demo period and I was very impressed. I also have Soothe, MSD, the sonibles, tokyo dawn, Unfilter, Acons tools... I found Gullfoss sounded the best in that it was more natural and worked best to clear out the audio of clutter. I didn't end up buying it however. I will at some point.

[sonicpowa]

^ Yep, I was referring to Soothe for smoothing out resonances.

Of course - why you would want to "correct" pink noise is another question.

It´s a good question because pink noise isn´t very good reference anyway. I don´t know the answer but it´s not pink.

[xandde1]

So, Gullfoss is dynamically trying to make the signal reference pink noise. It has a limit though...it will only do a 9db gain and an 8db attenuation at most. Hmm...they have to fix the issue where the mouse pointer covers the frequency when you click in the spectrum window above the 0db line and to the left of 640Hz.

That's interesting! Thanks for sharing your conclusions with us.

[xandde1]

-- there's also oeksound Soothe, but it's also Pace so f**k that off as well.

Have you tried Melda MSpectralDynamics?

MSD is a mega-multi-band dynamics processor not a multi-band(ish) eq like gullfoss.

I used Gullfoss in a production during the demo period and I was very impressed. I also have Soothe, MSD, the sonibles, tokyo dawn, Unfilter, Acons tools... I found Gullfoss sounded the best in that it was more natural and worked best to clear out the audio of clutter. I didn't end up buying it however. I will at some point.

Just a reminder: the $99 Windows intro price is ending soon (like a week or so). After that, the price will be $199 for both systems if I'm not wrong.

[MasterTuner]

I just got the demo of Gullfoss, trying it now. Some early thoughts:

► It cleaned up a guitar track I had with some mid-range honkyness issues quite well. I could have got them out myself but it would have taken a little more time.
► I sense there could be a temptation to make the mixes more brighter than they should perhaps be
► The Boost seems adds a pumping sensation. I think with all the controls, "subtleness" is probably the key.
► Is it me, or does Gullfoss seem to make mixes more "3d". Not sure if that the right word, maybe "expands the dimension". Anyone else noticed this ?
► I don't sense its using a ton of CPU...

q1) Is this something you would find yourself putting on every track, not just the mixbus?
q2) I am assuming that the registered version does not require a physical iLok dongle? I only have the machine license iLok program.

I've been looking for some honest reviews on Youtube that give both positives and negatives, but can't really find anything negative. White Sea Audio (who is usually critical and honest) seems to give Gullfoss a thumbs up. Are there any reviews out there that give a different side of the story?

[Mathematics]

1. Gullfoss is constantly dynamic not static
2. U can exclude upper and lower frequencies

Yes it´s dynamic, I was just offering options. Dynamic isn´t always best choice. And you can exlude upper/lower freqs with pink noise, altough not as elegantly.

Dynamic isn't always the best choice. - yes.

[Mathematics]

1. Gullfoss is constantly dynamic not static
2. U can exclude upper and lower frequencies

Yes it´s dynamic, I was just offering options. Dynamic isn´t always best choice. And you can exlude upper/lower freqs with pink noise, altough not as elegantly.

tbh i really like it for knocking out resonances on raw recording and it track's pitch pretty well in that regard. I know Neutron3 has pitch tracking, but i found it less effective than gullfoss in that manner.

Others are dynamic but don't really track.
Unfilter is also Pace so f**k that off.
Sonible didn't really sound good.
there's also oeksound Soothe, but it's also Pace so f**k that off as well.

ugh.

You gotta learn to make lemonade with that stack of lemons.

[MadDogE134]

don't know about "3D" but imo it slots and notches things quite well which allows everything to shine in their own way.

[Mathematics]

q1) Is this something you would find yourself putting on every track, not just the mixbus?
q2) I am assuming that the registered version does not require a physical iLok dongle? I only have the machine license iLok program.

I've been looking for some honest reviews on Youtube that give both positives and negatives, but can't really find anything negative. White Sea Audio (who is usually critical and honest) seems to give Gullfoss a thumbs up. Are there any reviews out there that give a different side of the story?

White Sea...lol. You gotta be careful taking his advice. Some of his tests are ridiculously flawed. Anyway, he just poked around with the plugin and the test that I did was one of several good tests. Another good test to see the limitation of this plugin, is extreme amplitude changes of two frequency bands and adjusting the timing of the impact of the sound in each band. For example, a single piano key with high pass and a Bass guitar pluck with a low pass. Oscillate the two sounds and gradually decrease the interval of time in which they're played. The spectrum should look like a seesaw. I have a feeling Gullfoss will, at some point just ignore changing anything at specific speeds. If this is the case, this could be detrimental to certain sound effects used in EDM music for breaks and drops.

To answer your questions:
1) I could see it on every track but only on a particular band.
2) You can use machine CRP. Apparently, they offer iLok-free CRP.

[MasterTuner]

White Sea...lol. You gotta be careful taking his advice. Some of his tests are ridiculously flawed. Anyway, he just poked around with the plugin and the test that I did was one of several good tests. Another good test to see the limitation of this plugin, is extreme amplitude changes of two frequency bands and adjusting the timing of the impact of the sound in each band. For example, a single piano key with high pass and a Bass guitar pluck with a low pass. Oscillate the two sounds and gradually decrease the interval of time in which they're played. The spectrum should look like a seesaw. I have a feeling Gullfoss will, at some point just ignore changing anything at specific speeds. If this is the case, this could be detrimental to certain sound effects used in EDM music for breaks and drops.

I've been pretty impressed so far, but what gives me some confidence is that they are still working on it and perfecting it, and apparently there's no plan to charge for upgrades at the moment when a new version comes out.
Their guy at NAMM said the dev team were adding some user-requested features at the moment, but didn't go into depth.

[Mathematics]

Like the human eye, the ear also has a type of sonic inertia. For instance, the Haas effect.

Anyway, so it would be interesting to see how Gullfoss treats evolving sounds. If the evolving sound is too fast, then due to the sonic inertia, you shouldn't notice anything. If the evolving sound is slow, then it gives time for Gullfoss to dynamically change the spectral content. Unless you want that, it should treat that differently than.

I can see why they put high and low pass filters. They probably couldn't figure out how to keep the dynamic eq from eq'ing dead air or eq'ing irrelevant parts. For instance, a soft violin solo. Gullfoss will destroy the sonic characteristic of that instrument if you left it full band. No...you would have to trim the top end otherwise it would be too bright. So, Gullfoss isn't as intelligent as they say - lol. Seriously though, this tool is definitely a secret weapon in the right hands of someone that knows its limitations.

They market it to be something more than what it is. It's just a dynamic matching eq with pink noise as a reference. That's it.

I still think it's a secret weapon but it's also kind of gimmicky when you really think about it. I mean...who really eq matches to pink noise. Unless you're doing ambient or ethereal...no one. Rather, no one I know.