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pdxindy wrote:
DrGonzo wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:Are you talking about overdriving the filter? It doesn't seem that Diva is set up for that, at least not in the way that DCAM or Olga does it. (or should I say "over does it?" You'll probably have to post process it. I think Urs said that type of behavior was more of a modern synth thing and he wanted to remain true to Diva's "vintage" emulation style.
Ah... well, actually I was thinking about the modificaions page where there are a couple of highly interesting labels such as rectify and invert. Have been looking through the presets but still haven't found any that make use of this section. Any idea of how to use it?
Invert will invert a signal... so an envelop +20 on a parameter will be same as that parameter set to -20 without invert. So unless someone has some situation where a single parameter is useful with invert I think it does not matter cause you can already tuen a modulation knob either way... however, with multiply and add, you can invert one signal in relation to another and here it is useful.

It is cool to use two envelopes with add with one inverted for some unusual envelop shapes such as a quick attack but which then swells in volume... for parameters with only one modulation control, this is useful as well... For example High Pass Filter cutoff only has the one modulation. If you want to put some keytracking, you have to put the knob to the plus... then if you also wanted to have an env subtract, you would use invert and put invert and keytrack in add...

Rectify I thought I understood that it would make an LFO unipolar rather than bipolar... However it does not act as I imagined... for example, an LFO on square wave I thought should jump only up or down using rectify. That is not what happens so my understanding is poor. I'm still trying to figure that one out.

Lag is useful. You can send a square lfo to lag and the result is like using glide. Instead of a straight jump up and down, it gives you an attack envelop...

Quantize changes a modifier like an envelop from smooth to steps... so put env2 as the target in quantize, then put quantize as the modifier for cutoff and the modulation will go in steps... increasing the quantize control will make the steps finer

Add and Multiply seem self evident... great for using two modulators for parameters with only 1 mod control.

Well, there's a start...
With all these options it seems like a scope for a selected mod signal might be in order... :o

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Installed/authorized DIVA yesterday. What a magnificent sound! I did have a few issues which I'll report back on when I've had more time to explore.

I do have a few questions.

1. On the digital ADSR control, there are two buttons labeled with a single letter (not at my DAW, so I don't remember what the exact letters are). What do these do?

2. Can I safely assume that the ADSR controls will behave the same irrespective of which Oscillator type and/or Filter type is selected?

3. In playing around with one of the templates with no changes made other than the wave form, I selected a sine wave and made the other oscillator mute. When playing more than three notes concurrently, I got very clippy sounding distortion. Reducing the master volume didn't seem to make it go away. Does this happen because that's just the way the circuits would behave in real life?

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

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dmbaer wrote:Installed/authorized DIVA yesterday. What a magnificent sound! I did have a few issues which I'll report back on when I've had more time to explore.

I do have a few questions.

1. On the digital ADSR control, there are two buttons labeled with a single letter (not at my DAW, so I don't remember what the exact letters are). What do these do?
"c" gives a curved slope to the envelop - "q" quanitizes the envelop so the changes are a bit stairstepped instead of smooth.

dmbaer wrote:2. Can I safely assume that the ADSR controls will behave the same irrespective of which Oscillator type and/or Filter type is selected?
IIRC the env has some interaction with the osc/filter but Urs would have to confirm that...

dmbaer wrote:3. In playing around with one of the templates with no changes made other than the wave form, I selected a sine wave and made the other oscillator mute. When playing more than three notes concurrently, I got very clippy sounding distortion. Reducing the master volume didn't seem to make it go away. Does this happen because that's just the way the circuits would behave in real life?

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

try setting quality to fast and see if it is a cpu issue... If it is not too loud a signal and clipping, or not cpu, then I figure it is a bug.

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1. Q = quantize = steppy like a digital (software) envelope
C = curves = like a J6 envelope

Or see:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16#4733016

2. I believe that's the idea.

3. No idea.

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Hi!

I have the same problems with the DIVA. Crackles; after switching through some presets there is a loud "CLICK" and the sound stops. Mostly my audio-meter in cubase is at 100% then and comes down slowly with crackles. I've checked it in vsthost64 and it says +120db output when this happens!? Would be nice if there would be a solution for this problem.

My machine:
Core2Quad with 3GHz, 8GB RAM, Win7 x64, Cubase 6.0.5 x64
Steinberg UR28M Audio Interface

Hope to get a solution soon :)

Greetings and merry christmas,
Mike

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Yep, 64-bit seems to explode at times. We're not yet certain and we can't pinpoint it during holidays, but we'll address it asap, hopefully before the end of the year...

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Hi Urs, thanks for your feedback.

FYI:
A friend of me has tested the DIVA in demo-mode in 32Bit under Win7 x32 and has the same problems. So it seems that it is not only a 64bit problem :)
After that i've jbridged the 32Bit DIVA and could reproduce the problems that i have with the 64bit version.

Greetings,
Mike

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I got Diva for Christmas! Merry Christmas and happy holidays U-HE & community!

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5 Divas, 1 ACE, Halion, Merry Christmas!

http://www.noahcohn.com/merrychristmas.mp3

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dmbaer wrote:In playing around with one of the templates with no changes made other than the wave form, I selected a sine wave and made the other oscillator mute. When playing more than three notes concurrently, I got very clippy sounding distortion. Reducing the master volume didn't seem to make it go away. Does this happen because that's just the way the circuits would behave in real life?
Never mind ... pilot error. The host was running too hot. I didn't suspect it because nothing else sounded like it was clipping. Sorry for the false alarm.

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arachnaut wrote:?
The microtuning Led can be green, amber, red or off - what's that for?
The Leds from the waveforms have 3 different colours in the DUAL VCO Module when i go thru the presets: green, red and blue. Red seems to be the normal state? Also all other Leds have the same colour. Searched thru the postings but didn't find any answer. Maybe there are more colours, what's the meaning of them?

See for example in the bank "treasure trove!" the presets "Shredder", "Sick Synth", "Stairway" and "Still small voice".

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virtualant wrote:Maybe there are more colours, what's the meaning of them?
Move the LED Color knob (next to Master Volume) and you'll see. It has no effect on the sound. It's just a nice visual touch. If you have a DAW that can do such things, it's fun to modulate that parameter with an LFO or envelope follower. :D

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Mike Thomson wrote:FYI: A friend of me has tested the DIVA in demo-mode in 32Bit under Win7 x32 and has the same problems. So it seems that it is not only a 64bit problem :)After that i've jbridged the 32Bit DIVA and could reproduce the problems that i have with the 64bit version.
But does your friend have an x86 CPU or a x64 CPU? I think it might be a processor issue. I know 32-bit versions of recent win OS can run on x64 processors. Your friend may be sporting an x64 processor yet running 32-bit win7

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Hoo, boy... I'm STILL getting this thing where the first voice randomly fails to sound, and sometimes creates a huge mixer meter and sometimes CPU meter spike. Sometimes it even crashes Cubase.

Urs, do you have any ideas as to why this might be happening?
:dog:

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snigelx wrote:
Mike Thomson wrote:FYI: A friend of me has tested the DIVA in demo-mode in 32Bit under Win7 x32 and has the same problems. So it seems that it is not only a 64bit problem :)After that i've jbridged the 32Bit DIVA and could reproduce the problems that i have with the 64bit version.
But does your friend have an x86 CPU or a x64 CPU? I think it might be a processor issue. I know 32-bit versions of recent win OS can run on x64 processors. Your friend may be sporting an x64 processor yet running 32-bit win7
My friend has an Intel Core i5. It's a x64 CPU but he's running Win7 x32 at the moment.

Greetings,
Mike

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