indistinguishable from hardware ??

[Peter999]

...uff, just fixed for newbies

[Peter999]

Here are the files once more. Which of each two is the original and which the VSTi? Should be easy for experts imho.

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2

[hakey]

I just noticed I missed 3 from my choices (my 3 and 4 were in fact 4 and 5 respectively)

So my revised guesses: 1B, 2B, 3B, 4A, 5A are the original OBX

EDIT: and for 3 and 4 I prefer the one that I think is the OPX.

[aciddose]

when you say "original", what are you referring to? it isn't possible to qualify something based upon an arbitrary standard.

[izonin]

Thank you
What about you, izonin, now? At least I posted these because of you...

Yes, I'm sure you took good care in preparing these samples, which have to prove that your emulation is indistinguishable from the original. I'm not falling for this.

[hakey]

I'm not falling for this.

But, going on your posts in this thread, it really should be obvious to someone such as yourself, no?

[Peter999]

@ aciddose: Original: OB-X, VSTi: OP-X PRO-II

@ izonin: Of course tried to come close, but they are not 100% identical from the settings

[UltraJv]

I'm not falling for this.

But, going on your posts in this thread, it really should be obvious to someone such as yourself, no?

its obvious he cant tell and dosnt want to embarras himself by being wrong

[hakey]

I'm not falling for this.

But, going on your posts in this thread, it really should be obvious to someone such as yourself, no?

its obvious he cant tell and dosnt want to embarras himself by being wrong

I know, after all that hot air and bluster... hilarious!

[Peter999]

@ izonin: at least make a trial, then I will forgive you

Again, I never said that hardware and software are indistinguishable, experts should be able to in these examples; I just said that it's not forcingly the case that one is poor and the other great

[MaxSynths]

@Peter: it's not impossible to fake a sound. The problem is when you REALLY play an instrument. As soon as you tweak a knob you can hear the difference between a real analog and a soft synth.

I could link a piano sample and ask if it's real or fake... it would sound real to a lot of people, maybe professional pianists too. The problem is if you have to play it live.

I firmly believe that analog and virtual are two different kind of instruments and must be used each for its unique features.

[Gamma-UT]

Thank you
What about you, izonin, now? At least I posted these because of you...

Yes, I'm sure you took good care in preparing these samples, which have to prove that your emulation is indistinguishable from the original. I'm not falling for this.

What are you not falling for? You've claimed the sound of one of the instruments in the test is 'poor', so this should be easy, no?

[Peter999]

btw, there's no eq, external processing or any other tricks; it's all pure and dry; OB-X recrded directly to disk over apogee rosetta converters, OP-X PRO-II directly rendered to disk too - so a fair uncoloured comparison

[izonin]

@ izonin: at least make a trial, then I will forgive you

Again, I never said that hardware and software are indistinguishable, experts should be able to in these examples; I just said that it's not forcingly the case that one is poor and the other great

Forgive me? I'll demo your software tomorrow, and I'll post a short review here. How about that?

[hakey]

it's the poor filters that cripple the sound of this emulation (OP-X Pro)

Well then, you should have absolutely no trouble in picking out the emulation from the original in examples 1, 2 and 5 which feature slow filter sweeps.