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ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Thu Nov 28, 2002 8:45 pm

Interesting! Would you like to be specific about that

I used this technique in the RGB and Multiplex synths.. I've sent you a diag by email

PA · Post by PA » Thu Nov 28, 2002 9:41 pm

Bones,

Your synths sound very good. I just browsed through the presets and tried some loops and they immediatly produced big phat sounds :harp:

.

I forgive you

for all the rude things you said about Z3ta+

Can you explain why some synthedit made instruments sound very good, like yours, and others (the majority) very lean. The filters are all "off the shelf" programs provided by Jeff so where does the difference come from ?

Regards

PA

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Thu Nov 28, 2002 9:46 pm

basically each synthedit filter is [if i remember right] on either 6db/oct or 12db/oct ... it all depends how you wire em up PA

...

just out of interest ... you tried mine

... GRunT in particular should NOT sound thin ... all its filters are cascaded to some extent ...

... genuinely interested in your opinion ...

... cheers

rob

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Thu Nov 28, 2002 9:56 pm

Is there such a thing as 'Filter Envy'.. You know, a, "mine is Phatter than yours", type of thing

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Thu Nov 28, 2002 10:05 pm

not that id thought about it ian

... but you might JUST be right

... cheers

rob

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:26 am

Now, I'm just an old fogey so I wouldn't know what phat was if it bit me in the arse... but this is a silly synth which has filters which sound a little different to the normal synthedit ones n'est pas?
ATB

http://www.ianweb.dial.pipex.com/PhatChap.zip

PA · Post by PA » Fri Nov 29, 2002 8:34 pm

Exper and Ian,

Just dowloaded your babies, feedback tomorrow.

Cheers

PA

PA · Post by PA » Sun Dec 01, 2002 6:13 pm

Experiment,

Grunt sounds very good. I did not have too much time to explore it fully, I feel there are other synths out there with similar capabilities but I like it . I like the knobs also. The only thing is the back panel not too much my tastes but who cares.

Ian,

I tried PhatChap, sorry but I find it hard to use. I have been able to produce very crunchy bass sounds which is I suppose what it should do but too crunchy for me.
The overall graphical layout and blinking eyes are unique though. The only "animated" VST GUI that I know other than Delay Lama of course.

Regards

PA

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sun Dec 01, 2002 11:36 pm

VitaminD wrote:why did you include only a lowpass filter?

is this the SV lowpass or the Biquad ("moog") LP ?

It is the BiQuad filter and I only included it because low-pass filters are all I ever use. I thought about cascading two filters but didn't get around to it.

..why did you make these if you arent going to use them? ..i thought that was the whole point of making synths ???

It was just something to try, an intellectual challenge. By the time I was 3/4 finished I had totally lost interest and it took me a while to get around to finishing either of them. The only reason I resurrected the thread was because Reg discovered them by accident so I figured that maybe a few people had missed the thread as it sank so quickly.

If SOULkILLER's filter sounded better I would probably use it because I really like Jeff's oscillators and I set up the modultaion system to suit the way I like to work. MINDkILLER gets some use because it makes the sort of noises that I use and its easy. If I ever get the urge to do some more SE work I would probably expand on SOULkILLER to make it more to my liking.

BTW Bajongo, the're called KILLER SYNTHS because the're made by NOVAkILL and because I like to kill things.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 11:16 am

Well, I hope you're all happy now! You shamed me into doing some more work on SOULkILLER last night. It now has a sub-oscillator and I've cascaded two Moog filters. The filters now sound heaps better but CPU usage has tripled. I may cut the polyphony back to compensate as CPU usage of SE synths seems to be a big concern to a lot of users.

As soon as I've re-done the patches I will upload it as SOULkILLERrevison1 so that there will be no backwards compatibility issues [probably tomorrow or Thursday].

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Thu Dec 05, 2002 11:00 am

The new version ofSOULkILLER is up. I haven't made any new presets for it except for the first one but I think that will give you some idea of how much better it sounds now.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 4:43 am

This is becoming a bit of a monlogue. Don't get too excited about the new SOULkILLER just yet. I have been doing a little more work on it and I've managed to reduce the CPU strain and I've added a METALLIC slider which uses a fixed sine wave as an FM source on OSC 1 & 2. I've made some new presets and I will upload it later tonight.

smart · Post by **smart** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 5:11 am

BONES, I used MINDkILLER in my latest track

go check it out and be proud

http://www.sectionz.com/detail.asp?rtype=mp3&szid=4868

mistertoast · Post by **mistertoast** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 5:22 am

Hey, keep talking to yourself, we're listening. :-> Let us know when you post the latest.

geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Sat Dec 07, 2002 9:36 pm

BONES, its great youve added a subosc

But, with the new filter, theres the same problem i already noticed with MVX synth (mvx2 i guess) : when resonance is 100%, if you open the cutoff a bit too much, there is internal overloading and it cuts audio...

KILLER SYNTHS! [Finally]