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politcat · Post by **politcat** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:25 pm

speaking of pumpkins, corgan's latest has some awesome chill sounds. another example of less-than-great voice but with great effect.

Ian B · Post by **Ian B** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:28 pm

politcat wrote:anyway, even placido domingo is known to sing out of tune from time to time and i'll pay up to hear him in a heart beat.

Hmmm, I'd pay to hear/see him have a heart attack

androidlove · Post by **androidlove** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:37 pm

i'd rather hang out with courtney love (no relation)

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:37 pm

not defending or criticizing madonna in any way. just wanted to say that autotune is something that is fairly common in the industry. almost every pop group (including my own) uses it. our singer prob doesn't have to but he does because he's expected to. tons of albums in the world of popular music have used techniques like beat detective and autotune (and this isn't just limited to popular music as well). is this a good or bad thing? i don't care as long as i get paid.

drez · Post by **drez** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:42 pm

jmh wrote:So, autotuning the bejesus out of the vocals is now creative?

So quantizing notes to sixteenths is creative?

politcat · Post by **politcat** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:42 pm

Ian B wrote:

Hmmm, I'd pay to hear/see him have a heart attack

i know you're just trying to be funny, but that's downright sick. it's too easy to say such things in this medium.

Rabid · Post by **Rabid** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:46 pm

Manc Chris wrote:
3*s wrote:I always thought it was Cher who was in partener with Antares.
Cher used it on one song. Old overrated Madge - "which shit hot producer should I use this week to enhance my undeserved rep even further?" - uses it all over her NEW album. Out. Of. Time.

I remember reading an interview with the producer in a music mag a few years ago about that being a misnomer. Most people think it is auto-tune because the effect is close, but in reality it was a planned effect. The interview went on to describe the studio process they used to create that sound. Afterwards other groups wanted to use that effect in songs. I remember NSync or Backstreet Boys or some similar group using it not long after. My thought was “why would anyone want that effect?”

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:09 pm

Can't read page 2. It contains a BanZ0rZd word!

But anyhow, I'd use Autotune if I had it. Or Melodyne. Or whatever else. Mind you, I might not-- GSnap is doing the job for me and it's free!

omo · Post by **omo** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:29 pm

I know for fact that she sings through Autotune if live. At least she did on a couple of live shows. Yet she doesn't do bad because if Autotune is used in real time you have to sing pretty much in tune anyway.

jasonsantiago · Post by **jasonsantiago** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:52 pm

I remember reading an interview with the producer in a music mag a few years ago about that being a misnomer. Most people think it is auto-tune because the effect is close, but in reality it was a planned effect. The interview went on to describe the studio process they used to create that sound.

Right, and from any actual subjective tests not a single person has been able to reproduce the effect that way. However, using Auto-Tune you can achieve the effect in under 3 seconds of effort. Hmmm

They lied in the article. *yawn* check the other 329389283 threads on that subject

One thing people forget is that antares makes hardware auto-tune (atr1a) and that is used all over the place live. So much for 'we'll see how they really are live'

androidlove · Post by **androidlove** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:02 pm

lip syncin to an auto tuned vocal is the hip thing. let's all strip to our undies and prance! yeeeee haaaaawww!

Rabid · Post by **Rabid** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:49 pm

jasonsantiago wrote:... They lied in the article. *yawn* check the other 329389283 threads on that subject
...

Well, we all know that forums and threads populated by bedroom musicians like us is the best place for accurate information.

Manc Chris · Post by **Manc Chris** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:12 am

Rabid wrote:
jasonsantiago wrote:... They lied in the article. *yawn* check the other 329389283 threads on that subject
...
Well, we all know that forums and threads populated by bedroom musicians like us is the best place for accurate information.

Either way, they DID lie. The Cher effect is autotune. Get over it

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:30 am

then again you could 'get over' the fact that Madonna uses Autotune....don't like it, don't buy it. simple. is as simple does.

bastien · Post by **bastien** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:43 am

Lunch Money wrote:She's getting a head-start on retro-90s.

So that's why I keep turning the tempo upto 180 - Junglist Massive!

Madonna in partnership with Antares?