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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:38 am

Well...

Thing is, I sometimes curse crossplatform work. I don't know what the world will look like when my MBox arrives and RTAS begins. On the other hand, crossplattform has hardly caused me any trouble in two years.

Nevertheless, in case of doubts it's always pro existing users.

Later,

Urs

Kyran · Post by **Kyran** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:22 pm

If there's one thing you should be able to find on linux, it's an IDE. it's world inhabited 90% by programming nerds, so there's IDE's in all flavours.

About the progress since 2000: I tried linux in 2002, and well, it took me five minutes to realize I'd never touch it any time soon. So I tried it again last year, and it works better than my windows install.

Here's me hoping you'll like it as well (try ubuntu, it can be set up in an osx like fashion reasonably easy)

TerryR · Post by **TerryR** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:55 am

Zebra 2 is Number 1 on my wishlist. I have been tinkering with Ubuntu for a couple of months, so a Linux Zebra 2 would put me deeper in debt for sure. Although, it will anyway, Linux or not.

fred-hal · Post by **fred-hal** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:44 pm

Bump of an old thread..

Now Renoise is released for linux as well, after a healthy poll vote in favor of a linux port.. So how about a reconsider mr. Heckmann?

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:55 pm

Urs wrote: I don't know what the world will look like when my MBox arrives and RTAS begins.

I know some people that will be very happy when that happens!

Kyran · Post by **Kyran** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:15 pm

fred-hal wrote:Bump of an old thread..

Now Renoise is released for linux as well, after a healthy poll vote in favor of a linux port.. So how about a reconsider mr. Heckmann?

hear hear!

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:15 pm

As much as I'd like to see linux become a viable pro audio platform, I'd much rather see Urs spending his time making new things.

kodama · Post by **kodama** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:27 pm

I think there's a good chance Linux might take over the world if the developers ever really start developing for users...

And if OS X doesn't start taking over all PCs at some point...

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:29 am

Hi Urs, All your great synths work fine in linux since wineasio, needing only the free
download of msvcr71.dll. Let the penguin keepers continue to perfect the win32 API, while you and your team provide one of the best prooduct lines in the audio world. Thanks again for the great randomizer, an inspiring learning tool if ever there was!
Have a great week!

EDIT: Occasionally a monthly version of WINE or xorg (or?) prevents loading the ZebraCM gui,
but quite rare in the last year. I just setup the PCLinuxOS distro wiith realtime kernel on Friday, used its installer to resize an XP partition, and create new ones for linux. It has the best gui and tools for that on any platform. I would recommend that, or JAD before Ubuntu, because of permissions set in Ubuntu that are not friendly to new users. Cheers

spacefox · Post by **spacefox** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:44 pm

Quoted from way back (June, last year)

Urs wrote:Dunno. The common business solution (open source software, earn from support) is pretty weird in my thinking. I know some who wanted to survive (!) from audio software for Linux, but they went somewhere different in the end.

Seriously, I don't know. Who if not me (my engine can be ported in less than a month). But: I'm frightened. I guess I need a working example first...

Garritan's new sample player (developed by Plogue) should have receive a Linux port, according to their press release. So Urs, you might get your "working example" sometime soon.

Kyran · Post by **Kyran** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:37 pm

I doubt you'll lose customers if you port your platform to linux.

You also don't need to opensource your product to go the linux way. Renoise and energyXT show this.
Living off the support for your product only works if you have a corporate product, it's not viable for consumer/single user products.

Offcourse, it's a matter of alternatives: will the other things that you can do in a month's time bring in more customers than porting your platform to linux.

Maybe you can do a poll, like the renoise guys did, and see how much of your current userbase would use/like a linux port

fred-hal · Post by **fred-hal** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:09 pm

Yay, my desktop is famous!

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/0 ... -on-linux/

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:43 pm

kodama wrote:I think there's a good chance Linux might take over the world if the developers ever really start developing for users...

And if OS X doesn't start taking over all PCs at some point...

I'll take that bet

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:55 am

kodama wrote:I think there's a good chance Linux might take over the world if the developers ever really start developing for users...

The wildebeast have no leader. They may run in the same general direction, but when they get there, it's just a bunch of wildebeast: migrate, eat grass, migrate, eat grass. At least the smart ones cross the river after the crocs are full. With a real leader, the lions would be trampled in a stampede whenever they showed up. Now, even the purring of a patent attorney strikes the herd with fear, either hide in an obscure CVS, or get swallowed by the pride.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:34 am

Kyran wrote:I doubt you'll lose customers if you port your platform to linux.

SNIP

Maybe you can do a poll, like the renoise guys did, and see how much of your current userbase would use/like a linux port

The pertinent questions would be
1. How much of the potential new-user pool use only linux?
2. Of those, what portion would pay for the product?
3. Of those, what portion would want or have to switch to windoze or 0sex for host, hardware and studio integration benefits later on, anyway?
4. Of the current user base, what percentage loathe BOTH
windoze and 0sex enough to spend a day learning a KDE, E17, or other GUI, the basic path structure, and a dozen
or so typed linux commands?
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For someone using a basic subset of host features, and
using several well-understood synths and FX lugins, a linux gui can default to having your apps and synth gui
each on their own desktop, each with a virtual keyboard,
and use the scroll wheel to instantly change desktops, 3,8, 11, what you need is what you get. The minimizing and resizing/relocating apps is gone, and
a new low stress workflow emerges.
Perhaps both 'power users' and those very new to computers, fall outside that middle range?
And most important, Zebra already works in linux, it ain't broke, and it ain't needs no fixin'
Cheers

(wish it was Friday already, well, last friday)

u-he

KVR Audio

Zebra and Penguin?