One Synth Challenge #88: TAL-NoiseMaker (Mac/PC) (z.prime wins!)
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- KVRian
- 1477 posts since 1 Jan, 2009
My entry
https://soundcloud.com/psyerichybrid/he ... of-a-dream
18 TAL NoiseMaker
Reaper:
EQ
Comp
Reverb
A1StereoControl
https://soundcloud.com/psyerichybrid/he ... of-a-dream
18 TAL NoiseMaker
Reaper:
EQ
Comp
Reverb
A1StereoControl
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- KVRer
- 10 posts since 26 Sep, 2015
Has anyone had issues in Ableton using NoiseMaker in device racks with lots of automation? After quitting and relaunching Ableton nothing has been quite the same with my gratuitously-automated NoiseMaker instances. I see all the knobs in the plugin dancing around like crazy still, but it sounds almost like the filter cutoff / resonance automation is being completely ignored.
I've been having a tough time isolating what's going on, and it probably doesn't help that I've got my own home-cooked max for live things driving the automation, but it definitely looks like all the automation data gets into NoiseMaker.
Short format of this story::
I had dynamic sounds that sounded one way and I was like "yeah!"
I quit and relaunched Ableton (or did it do that all by itself…)
Some instruments sounded really flat and I was like "aww…"
I've been having a tough time isolating what's going on, and it probably doesn't help that I've got my own home-cooked max for live things driving the automation, but it definitely looks like all the automation data gets into NoiseMaker.
Short format of this story::
I had dynamic sounds that sounded one way and I was like "yeah!"
I quit and relaunched Ableton (or did it do that all by itself…)
Some instruments sounded really flat and I was like "aww…"
- KVRAF
- 3206 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Nice! Thanks! It's easy to get sucked into the filter vortex, though, gradually leaving more and more of your sound to your imagination, while you're editing it, hehe. That's dangerous!
It's pretty tricky to control the character of the sound in TAL, when you aim for more natural sounds. I've tried to nudge the pulse width into position to get a kind of choir like sound out of it that's still not filtered to death. It works really nicely in chords in the upper ranges octave 6+, maybe adding a low one in support at 4 or 5, but 5 is really the most revealing for the pulse wave. ALSO it's best to actually rather use a nice reverb such as Sanford's fantastic reverb (free) and dip the sound really into it, hehehe. Just try to feel out at one point it drowns and instead try to preserve some sense of clarity.
Anyway...Noizemaker is might fine fun and there's much left to explore right now!
It's pretty tricky to control the character of the sound in TAL, when you aim for more natural sounds. I've tried to nudge the pulse width into position to get a kind of choir like sound out of it that's still not filtered to death. It works really nicely in chords in the upper ranges octave 6+, maybe adding a low one in support at 4 or 5, but 5 is really the most revealing for the pulse wave. ALSO it's best to actually rather use a nice reverb such as Sanford's fantastic reverb (free) and dip the sound really into it, hehehe. Just try to feel out at one point it drowns and instead try to preserve some sense of clarity.
Anyway...Noizemaker is might fine fun and there's much left to explore right now!
- KVRAF
- 3206 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
I'm having a minor other issue, where too many instances somehow can begin to sort of accumulate processing needs over time, eventually forcing me to restart MuLab (DAW). It also makes me "toggle processing on/off" when ever I leave my machine for a moment, hehe... strange kind of hunger TAL's baby has. 
Anyway, here's another flute preset with a little shakuhashi (spelling?) type version as well. Plays nicely with some careful pitch bending!
Anyway, here's another flute preset with a little shakuhashi (spelling?) type version as well. Plays nicely with some careful pitch bending!
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- KVRAF
- 3206 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Uh...(tripple post? Sorry
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Check this out:
https://soundcloud.com/taronium/tal-shaku01/s-DXy0g
It's just a quick test with choir and shaku. I'm kind of surprised how well the Shakuhachi (correct spelling) works!?!
This is pure TAL-Noizemaker, by the way. I did use a limiter a little, tiny compression, but no effects otherwise. Not like it's a big deal, but it kinda is, too. Doesn't sound half bad to me!
Check this out:
https://soundcloud.com/taronium/tal-shaku01/s-DXy0g
It's just a quick test with choir and shaku. I'm kind of surprised how well the Shakuhachi (correct spelling) works!?!
This is pure TAL-Noizemaker, by the way. I did use a limiter a little, tiny compression, but no effects otherwise. Not like it's a big deal, but it kinda is, too. Doesn't sound half bad to me!
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- KVRian
- 850 posts since 20 Oct, 2003 from Seattle
I got just a couple in hereVELLISLAV wrote:by the way i'm struggle with proper clap or snare preset - if somebody could share something in development i'll try to return the favour and make some variations
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/163 ... resets.zip
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- KVRian
- 850 posts since 20 Oct, 2003 from Seattle
Sounds fantastic!Taron wrote: This is pure TAL-Noizemaker, by the way. I did use a limiter a little, tiny compression, but no effects otherwise. Not like it's a big deal, but it kinda is, too. Doesn't sound half bad to me!
- KVRist
- 379 posts since 29 Jul, 2013 from Toronto
I won't be so bold to claim the attached as a "proper" clap, but for now at least, I'm layering the two attached patches to serve the role of a clap. One's a noise hit, the other uses the graphic envelope. The noise hit plus a tom base (which i haven't done yet) could serve as the starting point for a snare. I hate snares, though, so I'm sticking with the clap (even though a perfect snare is almost a requirement for winning OSC)VELLISLAV wrote:Hi there Vilian Troy here with the new account i'm gonna participate - thanks to Taron for nice presets which i play 4-5 minutes and end up with few mine - two of them free for all KVR community - nothing special just to show ofTaron wrote:Hey guys'n'gals, I keep doodling around for- what's apparently- hours with this curious little choir patch I just made the other day. I also made a sort of orchestral patch, which also requires a bit of fantasy and some heavy chords (best in upper registers, of course), while that one even makes a nice layered orchestral lead on top...woodwind with strings sort of feel.
Yes, both are brutally drenched in reverb, but I can completely get lost in those for some reason.
Too bad it's only 6 voices, but still... I felt like sharing them.:):)by the way i'm struggle with proper clap or snare preset - if somebody could share something in development i'll try to return the favour and make some variations
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- KVRist
- 68 posts since 30 Dec, 2015 from Sydney, Australia
I have been out of action the last month, so I am coming into this uncharacteristically late. Just started my entry today and forgotten how incredible this synth is. Definitely on par with many paid synths.
Noisemaker was probably the first synth I tried out when I first started making electronic music, and while it has been many years, it is cool to come back and actually make a full track with it. Not that I tend to use a lot of modulation in my sounds, but damn you can do some crazy stuff with this guy!
Noisemaker was probably the first synth I tried out when I first started making electronic music, and while it has been many years, it is cool to come back and actually make a full track with it. Not that I tend to use a lot of modulation in my sounds, but damn you can do some crazy stuff with this guy!
- KVRAF
- 3206 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
Thanks a lot, Jas, ain't that something!jasinski wrote:Sounds fantastic!Taron wrote: This is pure TAL-Noizemaker, by the way. I did use a limiter a little, tiny compression, but no effects otherwise. Not like it's a big deal, but it kinda is, too. Doesn't sound half bad to me!
I'm still kinda surprised...
...just the occasional 'clicks' are a bit concerning. I kinda wished TAL would come back to this one for a little check-up, giving his classic a tiny facelift, so to say!
- KVRAF
- 2229 posts since 29 Sep, 2011
Yes, that is pretty special. I am envious and afraid.Taron wrote:...quick test with choir and shaku. I'm kind of surprised how well the Shakuhachi (correct spelling) works!?!
- KVRAF
- 2229 posts since 29 Sep, 2011
Lies! But, off to a very good start if soBrisbane wrote:I've only started producing music about three months ago
- KVRAF
- 3206 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
z.prime wrote:Yes, that is pretty special. I am envious and afraid.Taron wrote:...quick test with choir and shaku. I'm kind of surprised how well the Shakuhachi (correct spelling) works!?!
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- KVRAF
- 1993 posts since 18 Nov, 2008
Wow!Taron wrote:Uh...(tripple post? Sorry)...
Check this out:
https://soundcloud.com/taronium/tal-shaku01/s-DXy0g
It's just a quick test with choir and shaku. I'm kind of surprised how well the Shakuhachi (correct spelling) works!?!
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
