indistinguishable from hardware ??

[izonin]

Just make good on your claim -- listen to what Peter posted and tell which is which. Are you really so certain you can't? That's the message you're sending by refusing even to try.

The only message I'm sending is that I'm kindly declining Peter999's polite offer to take his test.

I beg to differ.

You may not realise it, but you're sending out a very strong message - to put it politely, you just haven't got the courage of your convictions.

As I said, I noticed the difference the first time, and I don't need more tests. You took the test, you might need it.

[Peter999]

In fact your refusal to type 5 letters is a clear statement for me that neither of the examples is poor enough to be clearly stamped as coming from the software, so in fact mission accomplished

I guess you don't trust the examples and may think they are faked or manipulated or whatever; I can't send you over the OB-X, but maybe I'll find the used fxps somewhere; I think the filter sweep is more or less the "SEM resonance Sweep" preset which can be found in all factory banks (OP-X, OP-X PRO and OP-X PRO-II)

[Meffy]

@ariston: Cogito ergo elk. *nod*

@izonin: I've clearly stated that I can't distinguish among these. It's you who made a bold claim, and who have failed to demonstrate that you could do what you claimed. Sorry, but you've not convinced anyone... including, as I've already shown, yourself. :-}

You can prove me wrong easily. Listen. Analyze. Type five letters: A or B. See whether you're right. You know already you'll be right, so go ahead and show everyone else. I have more confidence in your ability than you do.

[Peter999]

@ izonin:
Note that youtube really is the worst medium to judge sound; 192kb mp3 files as used here are 10 times better

[ariston]

@ariston: Cogito ergo elk. *nod*

[hakey]

I noticed the difference the first time

Prove it...do it again.

Can't? Well then the opinion that you invested a good deal of time disseminating in multiple posts throughout this thread is worth nought.

Worse than that, you've succeeded in making yourself look more than a tad silly.

[izonin]

@ariston: Cogito ergo elk. *nod*

@izonin: I've clearly stated that I can't distinguish among these. It's you who made a bold claim, and who have failed to demonstrate that you could do what you claimed. Sorry, but you've not convinced anyone... including, as I've already shown, yourself. :-}

You can prove me wrong easily. Listen. Analyze. Type five letters: A or B. See whether you're right. You know already you'll be right, so go ahead and show everyone else. I have more confidence in your ability than you do.

And how do you know that I haven't? I'd say at least 12 people, who read this thread through, were convinced. Including me.

[ariston]

A child that lacks proper acknowledgement, attention, and love, will always act provocatively, seeking negative attention, because this at least is better than being ignored.

Pedagogical Psychology, first semester. Now why did I think of that just now?

[izonin]

I noticed the difference the first time

Prove it...do it again.

Can't? Well then the opinion that you invested a good deal of time disseminating in multiple posts throughout this thread is worth nought.

Worse than that, you've succeeded in making yourself look more than a tad silly.

I can watch the video again...

[PAK]

Well, listening a second time, and instead of being more sure I'm getting less.. Extra harmonics at start of 1A more typical of hardware, extra bass on 2A more typical of hardware.. Good stuff

[Nomoon]

I'll bite.. probably cause it's friday and I've had a beer. My submission is that: B, B, B, B, A. are from the analogue synth.

I'm basing my decision on a hunch, more or less. To my ear the analogue synth in the TAL/OB-X comparison posted earlier had a slightly sweeter or purer tone - the different aspects of the sweep sound a little clearer and more separate. I'm a little disappointed - I'd prefer to prefer the software sound!

[breakmixer]

Here are the files once more. Which of each two is the original and which the VSTi? Should be easy for experts imho.

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2

File 1
File 2


Izonin?

2,2,1,1,2 my guess is the real analogue!

[trimph1]

To me it would not really matter..they are different sounds in a broader pallet that i can choose to play with....

I mean, come now, I use all sorts of effects and stomp boxes with weird amplifiers (linear amps anyone?), or ampsims of all sorts in my pallet...

[Meffy]

Izonin has convinced me of one thing, the bit about "at least partly trolling" or however it was phrased. :-} I won't participate in the feeding any longer. No proof will be given and it's not worth the bother keeping up when one side's not serious.

@trimph: That's the position I take, and at least one other poster in the thread. A pragmatic approach suits me.

[aciddose]

xhip sounds like this, only it can do 10x and so can create timbres impossible with the ob-x due to different modes which might emulate various effects found in more distinctive analog circuits

Of course. Then, since it's so simple sounding, it shouldn't take you long to copy some of these same sounds with your synth and post them to prove your point. So, please, spend 10 minutes of your valuable time and post some actual audio comparisons. Direct audio comparisons speak far more than your words ever can or will on these matters..

apparently, the ob-x sucks balls

Hahaha. Well, you've read the schematics, so it must be true

give me a specific example with a technical description and i'll satisfy your request. otherwise, why would i waste my time?

what do you want, two examples of an oscillator?

http://xhip.presetexchange.com/temp/compare.zip

what was the point?