KVR Audio

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:18 pm

DavidCarlyon wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:35 pm
ilmai wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:36 am What are the opinions on this now that it's been out for a while? Any significant bugs or annoyances? I've been on a sound design & synth demoing binge the last couple of weeks and Europa is on my shortlist of synths that would bring new sounds that my existing synths don't cover.
depends what you are looking for really, and what kind of music you make!?
Its probably the most interesting synth out there. Purely in terms of the synth engine. Its really quite increible what you can do with this thing. The workflow is extemely focused. Not loads of stuff you dont need, but everything you do need. It sounds increible too.
I would say just get it. It really is a fantastic synth.
Its also really quick to work on. the envelopes are great. Sound designers dream.
For me coming from synths like falcon, its a really simple layout - which makes for fast work. but again, its the actual synth engine that is super powerful - as opposed to having millions of layers of simple VA synth.
Cheers

My thoughts exactly.My only hope is it gets updated regularly.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:43 am

Anybody got views about Europa vs Arturia's new wavetable synth Pigments?

Just starting to demo Europa, I've noticed that it seems to suck appreciably less CPU juice compared to Pigments.

/Joachim

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:42 pm

I've demoed Europa a bit more and I really like its logical and easy-to-work-with layout. It positively invites your grubby fingers to get to work. I've uninstalled the Pigments demo – too fiddly for my simple tastes.

I'm going to give Santa a hint about Propellerheads…

/Joachim

db3 · Post by **db3** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:57 pm

I enjoyed demoing Europa, would certainly take a punt if it wasn't an NFR black hole.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:08 pm

So ... its NFR? TBH I think the red on black and grey GUI is pretty hideous. Haven't tried the demo tho' to be fair.

Koshdukai · Post by **Koshdukai** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:12 pm

In practice, yeah, it's kinda NFR, as in Rack Extensions licenses can't be transferred/sold to other users/accounts.

You buy it, you own it for life.

...unless that changes in the future.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:51 pm

Thanx. I thought they might have a different policy for their VSTs.

c_voltage · Post by **c_voltage** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:54 pm

Did grab finally it tohether with Reason upgrade, really there is something special in his sound, i even do not know, despite to his not so special structure. I even tried disable all fx and filters in his some patches, but anyway, hmm.. Very good thing.

Grizzellda · Post by **Grizzellda** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:00 pm

Generally speaking, I think Props are well aware, perhaps even acutely aware...

that the #1 thing they need to attend to, is this whole f**k*n GUI issue!

Waddaya guys say?

It covers everything...all the complaints, the crap-ola...

Koshdukai · Post by **Koshdukai** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:01 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:51 pm Thanx. I thought they might have a different policy for their VSTs.

uh... the VST version, hmmm... well, can't see a "Transfer License" option on that one either, so... yeah, I guess the same NFR'ish policy applies to Europa VST.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:34 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:08 pm TBH I think the red on black and grey GUI is pretty hideous.

Not me - I think it looks fantastic. It's also great on the eyes in low-light studios (as reds tend to be easier on the pupils). But everyone's taste is different, so.. * shrugs *

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:39 pm

Grizzellda wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:00 pm Generally speaking, I think Props are well aware, perhaps even acutely aware...

that the #1 thing they need to attend to, is this whole f**k*n GUI issue!

Waddaya guys say? It covers everything...all the complaints, the crap-ola...

In relation to Europa? I get some people don't like the colour but as a GUI it's pretty good.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:46 pm

EnochLight wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:34 pm
thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:08 pm TBH I think the red on black and grey GUI is pretty hideous.
Not me - I think it looks fantastic. It's also great on the eyes in low-light studios (as reds tend to be easier on the pupils). But everyone's taste is different, so.. * shrugs *

It's mainly the bottom half that I have issues with. Red lettering on a black background is very hard to look at for any length of time for me. YMMV

Grizzellda · Post by **Grizzellda** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:48 pm

aMUSEd wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:39 pm
Grizzellda wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:00 pm Generally speaking, I think Props are well aware, perhaps even acutely aware...

that the #1 thing they need to attend to, is this whole f**k*n GUI issue!

Waddaya guys say? It covers everything...all the complaints, the crap-ola...
In relation to Europa? I get some people don't like the colour but as a GUI it's pretty good.

The whole program...the holistic experience of using Reason. The rack, sequencer, everything, baby.

Holistic! but I said that already.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:50 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:46 pm It's mainly the bottom half that I have issues with. Red lettering on a black background is very hard to look at for any length of time for me. YMMV

Yeah, that might be an acquired taste. I'm an amateur astronomy buff so I'm used to looking at red text on black/dark backgrounds.

Europa Shapeshifting Synth - 1st VST/AU by Propellerhead