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Hez wrote:Denis, would there be any possibility of adding a glide/portamento setting to the keyboard harmonic filter? Experimenting with some spacey drones this morning and when you're high on resynth/simplify the chord changes can sound quite abrupt. A way of setting the oscillators to gradually glide between snapshots (with variable time and possibly curve ideally) could sound really beautiful I think.

EDIT: And while I'm being a very demanding customer, microtuning support for this would be sick and make it a lovely partner for Kaleidoscope. Ideally implemented in a similar way, i.e. load a scale file and then set the root/centre note on the fly with a drop down, rather than having to continually bounce out .tun files every time you want to change key.
We'll have a look at glide, it's been brought up a couple of times & I do see the benefit. Question would be what to do with mismatches in number of active notes between snapshots – in RES that wouldn't really matter as you could just fade-out notes that have no counterpart in the destination snap, and fade in ones that are new. But for quantize...hmm.

Microtonal...being a MetaSynth user i do see the benefit of that, but it's not exactly a small feature to add. We'll have to meditate on that a little. That said, the SUSTAIN (except for the simplify) as well as the track/hold HCF mode will use whatever tuning is inherent to the audio, no equal temperament and/or a440 enforced in any way.
Zynaptiq - Audio Software Based On Artificial Intelligence Technology, makers of PITCHMAP: Real-Time Polyphonic Pitch Correction And Mapping.

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zynaptiq wrote:We'll have a look at the rendering thing.

It could be the CAIRO framework that we use for cross-platform 2D rendering – it generally wraps OS native stuff but who knows, maybe it's calling deprecated OS features or something like that.

At any rate: indeed not something that we can just sit down and fix because our part of the total code of the plugin doesn't do any drawing itself.
Hmmm, that sounds like a problem - this issue is a bit of a workflow killer I must admit...

and thanks for the flowers :hug:

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
TabSel wrote:Doesn't happen here...

Cubase 8.5.20 @ MacBook Pro late 2013 el Capitan 10.11.6, Padshop Instrument track fed by Midi, AV insert (checked with both VST and VST3), tried with various random presets for both Padshop and AV. Smooth GUI overall... Strange
Thanks for checking, must be related to AU/LogicX then. I'll check Cubase 8 tomorrow and see if it also happens there.
I have the problem here in Cubase 8.5.20 when using SurferEQ 2 and Adaptiverb in the same channels. SurferEQ 2 starts getting sluggish and the surfing EQ points are jumping very coarse instead of shifting smoothly. Sound is ok but graphics are clearly disturbed in SuferEQ by Adativerb. This is on a HexCore MacPro with a AMD 5770 graphics card. CPU meters are not more than over 40 - 50%.

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dreamvoid wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
TabSel wrote:Doesn't happen here...

Cubase 8.5.20 @ MacBook Pro late 2013 el Capitan 10.11.6, Padshop Instrument track fed by Midi, AV insert (checked with both VST and VST3), tried with various random presets for both Padshop and AV. Smooth GUI overall... Strange
Thanks for checking, must be related to AU/LogicX then. I'll check Cubase 8 tomorrow and see if it also happens there.
I have the problem here in Cubase 8.5.20 when using SurferEQ 2 and Adaptiverb in the same channels. SurferEQ 2 starts getting sluggish and the surfing EQ points are jumping very coarse instead of shifting smoothly. Sound is ok but graphics are clearly disturbed in SuferEQ by Adativerb. This is on a HexCore MacPro with a AMD 5770 graphics card. CPU meters are not more than over 40 - 50%.
In my Mac Pro I also have 2 AMD graphic cards installed, will have to check the exact model later when the studio is on.

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Are you running this on a laptop by any chance? I've seen power save interfere with drawing on windows that are not the frontmost windows occasionally on newer OSs... try bringing padshop to the front to see if this changes anything.

--th
Sampleconstruct wrote:Here is a quick demo video demonstrating the bug, look at the Padshop Pro interface how the granular stream indicators freeze when the UI of Adaptiverb is opened. It also happens with Kaleidoscope and everything else I tested so far, but it seems that it only occurs if you insert Adaptiverb directly on an instrument track, so then the interface of the processed instrument will freeze/become unresponsive (not the instrument on the next track), will check again what happens when it's inserted on a Bus.

I'm the stereo chancellor

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Did you read my posts? Mac Pro dual monitor, not related to Padshop at all nor related to window focusing. It's just plain broken.

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Simon,

I have an idea – it's a wild guess but worth a try. I'd like to send you a build to check whether the issue still exists with that. If you wanna give it a go, please PM me the email to send a URL to.

Cheers,
Denis
Zynaptiq - Audio Software Based On Artificial Intelligence Technology, makers of PITCHMAP: Real-Time Polyphonic Pitch Correction And Mapping.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:Did you read my posts? Mac Pro dual monitor, not related to Padshop at all nor related to window focusing. It's just plain broken.
No all of them, no. I'm running Adaptiverb demo with Padshop Pro and I don't have any issues at all here... strange.

--th
I'm the stereo chancellor

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A fix is on the way...

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That's so cool about Zynaptic. It's not only the DSP quality, but also the quality of customer relations overall. Thank you Zynaptic. Denis!

I'm interested in the details about the issue from a technical perspective. Any insides, Denis?

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zynaptiq with a "q" :D

that's a little bit too complex to explain here in detail but basically, we were using a workaround to prevent mouse focus stealing within the GUI, which had the side-effect of changing the render context from CAIRO to OS.

Now why the OS rendering would affect other rendering threads...no idea whatsoever.
Zynaptiq - Audio Software Based On Artificial Intelligence Technology, makers of PITCHMAP: Real-Time Polyphonic Pitch Correction And Mapping.

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I've been having a little bit of trouble today...

I've got a project on the go which has six audio tracks feeding into Adaptiverb, which is on its own stereo bus.

I also have an instance of Breverb 2 and Timeless 2, each on their own bus.

I use automation to change volume and send levels as the project plays. There's lots of automation...

The six audio tracks are waves that were created by freezing synths, which have now been "archived," just leaving me the audio files. So I know there is no heavy CPU usage going on there.

I also have an instance of Hive going, which I haven't frozen yet because I am still developing it.

For the most part my project runs okay. It's fifteen minutes long and I do get the odd glitch every now and then.

But then I started to get heavy glitching/stuttering and it become quite impossible to carry on really.

I shut down my laptop and then turned it back on again, but there was still a lot of stuttering.

I checked Task Manager and shut down some processes that, to be honest, I don't normally bother doing, things like update schedulers and what have you.

Still loads of stutter.

After doing this about three more times, things settled down again.

Might be that my laptop isn't up to the task, but this thing cost me an absolute fortune, so I'm not due an upgrade just yet...

Intel Corei7-3820QM Quad Core Mobile Processor 2.70GHz 8MB cache
Intel HM77 Express Chipset
16GB SAMSUNG 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - 2.0GB DDR5 Video RAM
500GB Samsung 850 Pro SSD
1TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD
Windows 10 Pro
Roland OCTA-CAPTURE
Sonar Platinum

Current project set to 44k and 24bit. Buffers already increased to 1024 etc.


I'm just wondering why things seem to be okay and then all goes down hill, having not done anything other than play a project.


cheers

andy

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Some chill-out music for the evening - 2 instruments, each one with it's own instance of AV, the instance processing the guitar sounds has some subtle automation for Harmonic Filtering/HCF Weighting/Simplify going on.

https://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/ ... adaptiverb

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That's a very nice one, Sampleconstruct.
I posted it over at the Cakewalk forum: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Exponential-A ... px#3478067
There's also a dedicated thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Zynaptiq-Adap ... 66933.aspx

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...edited...found the "TRY" button :-)
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