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Urs wrote:I have no idea if it's gonna be anything like a 303. It's going to be wet though.

(Nov 16 was just an example... we have retune filters next week... might be difficult to meet)
That's what I'm talking' about . . .
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Nig wrote:November 16? Do you think it will be released around that date cause if it is I gotta make a few cut backs and get saving :D
It's a good thing there's only one U-He and they can't crank out a new synth every few months or we'd all be bankrupt :wink:
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I don't know if it's been brought up, but is there going to be an arpeggiator in DIVA?
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aer72 wrote:I don't know if it's been brought up, but is there going to be an arpeggiator on DIVA?
That would be really great! But nothing complicated! Just a simple direction switch (Up, Down, Up/Down, Random) and a speed and octave control :)
In other words: Something like the Jupiter 4 arp :)

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aer72 wrote:I don't know if it's been brought up, but is there going to be an arpeggiator in DIVA?
Not yet.

There's some stuff we need to postpone to later updates, if possible at all.

Due to the idea of adding multicore support we have to do a lot of things quite differently from the way we're used to. The synth has to become multitimbral internally, to a fair degree. That's however in contradictions to certain optimisations I did long time ago, for functionssuch as modulation matrices that require strict mono-timbrality. Adding Multicore support is one thing, but adding arpeggiators, sequencers or modulation matrices at the same time would mean a full ovehaul.

For that reason we're going to start out with a "basic" and then see where we can go from there.

(after all, while I think Diva has matured into a phantastic synth, we still don't have any first hand feedback and we don't know weather she'll sell or not - she's very different from the synths u-he is known for)

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Urs wrote:...we don't know weather she'll sell or not - she's very different from the synths u-he is known for...
I'd warrant it'll easily be amongst the best selling of your wares

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todd_r wrote:
Urs wrote:...we don't know weather she'll sell or not - she's very different from the synths u-he is known for...
I'd warrant it'll easily be amongst the best selling of your wares
That would be ursome.

Let's hope I can keep up with the promises :oops:

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todd_r wrote:
Urs wrote:...we don't know weather she'll sell or not - she's very different from the synths u-he is known for...
I'd warrant it'll easily be amongst the best selling of your wares
I think so too. I only got interested in ACE after all the word of mouth about how good it sounded as I'm not a modular guy, but I've always wanted a synth where I could mix and match parts from my favorite analogs. If DIVA is as easy to use as I think it will be, and sound as good as I suspect it will, it'll be huge.

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aer72 wrote:I don't know if it's been brought up, but is there going to be an arpeggiator in DIVA?
Are72, forgive me for posting an opposing viewpoint, but I personally feel most of todays plugins offer too much. I like to keep things simple and powerful. I used Five12's Numerology for all sequencing, arpeggiators, trance-gatish, patterns, etc. Having sequencing/arpeggiators also in the instruments is clutter. I don't mind a real basic up and down thingy for auditioning presets, but I find a complex arpeggiator that is limited wasted space. I like my stuff in separate boxes, so to speak. For this same reason I will dump Logic as soon as Bias releases their multitrack. Maybe I am stuck in my original workflow:
Instrument(s), sequencer, multitrack, FX and mastering.
In short, I would like to see simple yet powerful soft synths instead of pages of fluff and frills. Best example, Logic's instruments. They are good, but are they better than Zebra, Ace, or Rob Papen's stuff?
NO! Logic's instruments are virtual clutter because there are better synths out there . . . . like Diva (almost).
Just my HO. No disrespect to you or to Urs should he fill this little vixen with bells and whistles. :-).

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tommyzai wrote: Are72, forgive me for posting an opposing viewpoint, but I personally feel most of todays plugins offer too much. I like to keep things simple and powerful. I used Five12's Numerology for all sequencing, arpeggiators, trance-gatish, patterns, etc. Having sequencing/arpeggiators also in the instruments is clutter. I don't mind a real basic up and down thingy for auditioning presets, but I find a complex arpeggiator that is limited wasted space. I like my stuff in separate boxes, so to speak. For this same reason I will dump Logic as soon as Bias releases their multitrack. Maybe I am stuck in my original workflow:
Instrument(s), sequencer, multitrack, FX and mastering.
In short, I would like to see simple yet powerful soft synths instead of pages of fluff and frills. Best example, Logic's instruments. They are good, but are they better than Zebra, Ace, or Rob Papen's stuff?
NO! Logic's instruments are virtual clutter because there are better synths out there . . . . like Diva (almost).
Just my HO. No disrespect to you or to Urs should he fill this little vixen with bells and whistles. :-).
None disrespect taken. I believe Diva is going to be awesome. A simple arpeggiator would just be iceing on the cake ;-) I will be perfectly happy with or without an arpeggiator.

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tommyzai wrote:
aer72 wrote:I don't know if it's been brought up, but is there going to be an arpeggiator in DIVA?
Are72, forgive me for posting an opposing viewpoint, but I personally feel most of todays plugins offer too much. I like to keep things simple and powerful. I used Five12's Numerology for all sequencing, arpeggiators, trance-gatish, patterns, etc. Having sequencing/arpeggiators also in the instruments is clutter. I don't mind a real basic up and down thingy for auditioning presets, but I find a complex arpeggiator that is limited wasted space. I like my stuff in separate boxes, so to speak. For this same reason I will dump Logic as soon as Bias releases their multitrack. Maybe I am stuck in my original workflow:
Instrument(s), sequencer, multitrack, FX and mastering.
In short, I would like to see simple yet powerful soft synths instead of pages of fluff and frills. Best example, Logic's instruments. They are good, but are they better than Zebra, Ace, or Rob Papen's stuff?
NO! Logic's instruments are virtual clutter because there are better synths out there . . . . like Diva (almost).
Just my HO. No disrespect to you or to Urs should he fill this little vixen with bells and whistles. :-).
I'm on the exact same opinion. I also like to keep things simple and modular... Every piece has it's own purpose, and gets brought up when needed. This, however doesn't mean that certain control tools, - such as sequencers, and automators - are not needed to get done in the same quality, as the controlled synth itself.
So I'd say, I wouldn't miss these things from Diva, but I'd certainly expect some U-he quality tools for it, later on.

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Some exciting news! I think the UI design is far enough to give an impression.

While a few labels are missing and out of place, you can clearly see the structure.

It's a rather big ui, but it will be scalable down to 70% (half the size) and up to 150% (twice the size) in small steps of 10% without loosing its sharpness and readability. At least, that's what we've planned.

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Hope you like!

;) Urs

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One important question: emphasis changes to res or resonance when you shift to the Juno 60 filter, right ?

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