KVR Audio

Mechanought · Post by **Mechanought** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:25 am

For me 9/10 represents a program so good, that it's faults are made negligible by it's advantages.

9/10 is when I have used the program, fallen in love with it, and will use it forever.

9/10 = This is perfect for me.

As I said, the whole experience is subjective. I can only rate something based on it's usefulness to myself.

I believe nothing is perfect, so 10/10 is theoretically impossible...to me.

9/10 is theoretically possible, but highly improbable.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:31 am

i know nobody bothers to read my posts

9/10 though you're assuming you're omnipotent. you know absolutely everything and can be comfortable in stating that it is simply impossible to find anything better, ever. no, not just because you didn't happen to think of a way to improve it. that's impossible because you're omnipotent.

i would recommend 7/10 as a "it's as good as i'd ever need it to be" number.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:23 am

I've never done a user review on KVR. I generally would say I would not give a 10 cause there is always something that can be improved. An 8 would be a high rating imo. But there is no agreed upon scale for people to use so the rating means different things to different people and thus is hard to judge by.

That said, I think Diva might actually get a 10 from me cause it is easy to use, well designed, great presets, solid and a new standard of sound quality. I never thought I would think of a synth as a 10 cause there is always some area or aspect where I think it could be better but with Diva that is not the case. The dev just nailed it with Diva. But if one does not reserve the 10 for something truly special, then there is no way to make that distinction later if I give everything I like a 10.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:38 am

rifftrax wrote:
What there is is very very competent stuff available either cheap or free that is light years beyond comparable software in other industries. LIGHT YEARS. Photo-editing comes to mind. The currently available crop of software for photo manipulation is a MASSIVE shitty pita to use (photoshop is really the worst offender). Video editing? Same thing. PAIN IN THE ASS.

Comparing how quickly I can arrange a song in say FL Studio vs. how quickly I could potentially edit a full-length video in Final Cut is almost laughable. It's one of the reasons why I write music and instead of doing graphic design or video editing.

I disagree... I can take a photograph of a building, with some part missing and fabricate the missing part in Photoshop at a high enough level of quality that very few people could even tell. Photoshop has earned me mountains of money! Love that software!

And you simply cannot compare video editing. To have the equivalent quality of video to equal 96khz 24 bit audio you would simply not even be able to edit a video track at all. The necessary data stream for equivalent quality video is vastly larger. We can layer all sorts of realtime audio effects that are just not possible with video.

Video is an entirely different arena. Even so, I have covered many events with my video cameras and had the finished video done within 12-24 hours for broadcast/screening. The software is pretty damn good in dealing with far higher data bandwidths.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:39 am

I think I could give a 'satisfaction' rating of 10, ie. for the purchase price, my needs, features etc. all things considered, how 'satisfied' am I with something? Even if I would give performance, UI or something else a lower grade. This is why I think it would be cool to have multiple items to rate by scale, because for example Diva I would give an 8 for performance maybe because it requires a lot of resources, but definitely a 10 on my satisfaction level. Trilian would also get a 10 for satisfaction, I'm thinking of plugins that I have no regret buying and am not looking to replace, still finding new value and excitement in them.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:40 am

There are many freeware synths that if I paid for them I may be less satisfied, but for free they get a 10

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:22 am

Maybe the review could be given more weight according to the number of reviews the reviewer has done.
The logic is that if you havent reviewed a lot, then you havent seen/used a lot. In practice it wouldnt work, but who cares.

You could tier the available scores.
So, if you have under a certain number of reviews you can only rate something a 4-8, etc.. Everyones first review is a 5.
Might also encourage more reviews for those people who really need to give Dive a 10.

deathwish · Post by **deathwish** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:28 am

According to the rating system Zebra is the best plugin with almost all reviewers giving it a 10!

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:53 am

Ratings, labels, comparisons, charts.

The human mind always wanting to put things into categories.
Compartments of organization.
Contests for survival.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:59 am

deathwish wrote:According to the rating system Zebra is the best plugin with almost all reviewers giving it a 10!

Zebra is the only product I've reviewed as a 10. I find it truly deserves that score. Its a 'Deserted island' synth for me

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:04 am

ariston wrote:The KVR user reviews feature so many plugins that score a perfect 10 - why...

It's because we live in a binary age.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:09 am

so you're saying these actually represent a rating of 2? that makes more sense.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:10 am

Doug1978(tempID) wrote:
ariston wrote:The KVR user reviews feature so many plugins that score a perfect 10 - why...
It's because we live in a binary age.

So you're saying the highest rating is really a 2? Devs have a lot of room for improvement then...

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:18 am

don't worry bender. there's no such thing as two.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:33 am

I'm not rating this thread very high. I'll not do a review though.

The KVR user reviews - what a great age this is! Only 10s!