How does Tracktion 5 compare to Reaper 4 ?

[pdxindy]

Ok, so we agree. It's not new. It is great that Tracktion has implemented the functionality, but it is disingenuous to characterize it as 'cutting edge'.

No, we don't agree... I would call Tracktion innovative and forward thinking... and where a new feature may be something done before, the Devs often find a smart new improvement/implementation. They consistently add interesting stuff and approaches. There is a lot of fast, effective and sophisticated functionality in Tracktion... especially for a $60 host. It is impressive IMO and I think the Devs deserve credit for it.

You of course, are free to characterize Tracktion however you wish.

[spaceman]

The value for money you get with Tracktion is quite amazing. The same for Reaper's non-commercial license actually. Ridiculous money for both of them and they are both amazing pieces of software. If $60 is all you have to spend, you can't go wrong with either of them.

[Turello]

@ HobbyCore: there's a thread in this page but don't remember the cathegory (probably\perhaps in "Everything Else")

[HobbyCore]

Ok, so we agree. It's not new. It is great that Tracktion has implemented the functionality, but it is disingenuous to characterize it as 'cutting edge'.

No, we don't agree... I would call Tracktion innovative and forward thinking... and where a new feature may be something done before, the Devs often find a smart new improvement/implementation. They consistently add interesting stuff and approaches. There is a lot of fast, effective and sophisticated functionality in Tracktion... especially for a $60 host. It is impressive IMO and I think the Devs deserve credit for it.

You of course, are free to characterize Tracktion however you wish.

You responded to me asking about what features were cutting edge about tracktion. The context of the thread of discussion was 'cutting edge features'. All the other positive aspects of Tracktion are irrelevant when I'm trying to ask what exactly is 'cutting edge' about it.

Someone else characterized Tracktion and I'm trying to get factual information that backs up that claim.

It appears that I am one of the few people in this thread who has not characterized Tracktion, but has instead tried to get some level of objectivity. I would think this is appreciated, since having indisputable objective information would give more credence to the superiority of the software.

Maybe we can try again? What are some of the fast and sophisticated features of Tracktion?

[HobbyCore]

Maybe we can try again? What are some of the fast and sophisticated features of Tracktion?

I'll even start the response myself.

The realtime CPU management. http://www.tracktion.com/details-new/re ... management

Freeze Points. http://www.tracktion.com/details-new/fr ... technology

Effect racks - Multiple path, user-configurable, ad-hoc plugin environments.

In-line step-sequencer.


What else? This is the sort of information that is very helpful to people interested in the OP.

[crashedthecar]

I'm wondering about tempo mapping.
In reaper you drop markers on the one, then convert to a tempo map. Can this be done in tracktion?

[pdxindy]

Maybe we can try again? What are some of the fast and sophisticated features of Tracktion?

I'll even start the response myself.

The realtime CPU management. http://www.tracktion.com/details-new/re ... management

Freeze Points. http://www.tracktion.com/details-new/fr ... technology

Effect racks - Multiple path, user-configurable, ad-hoc plugin environments.

In-line step-sequencer.


What else? This is the sort of information that is very helpful to people interested in the OP.

the note per midi channel implementation...

per note automation...

Seaboard support...

[fwsuperhero]

To be honest, ive bought tracktion and i use it for mixing mainly. I love that inline mixing approach (so much that i dont use harrison mixbus for now ), but... the only feature ive found really revolutionary is freezing. This and tracktion template make it the best daw for laptops with small screens and not enough power but not just for them. This clip thing is possible with studio one also. Tracktion has a lot of things to get better to be honest. I like it but i ve never got how a lot of people are extremly enthusiasthic about it.
Racks arent so advanced as they look, mulab has it better. Even Renoise, ableton or bitwig approach seems better to me than just input or output connecting. I would like to see some devices that would control vst parameters inside the rack, more modularity.
Midi is very basic, you cant see very well more tracks and their notes together. You cant lock to scale etc etc (i know there are midi filters but it is not the same thing). These step sequencer things are useful when you use template but if you use a lot of vsti and every need different notes to trigger drums it takes time to configure it and it destroys my workflow a lot. So i ve created template where step sequencer clips are set for inserted vsti plugin. Not the most elegant solution...
Tracktion is the only daw where my vst guis are influenced by tracktion cpu demand so sometimes i cant move a knob almost.
I like tracktion very much but i dont thing that it is better than reaper. I dont use reaper, i dont like how it looks, i dont like its windows, i dont like its mixer. But it has more functionality, much better internal effects and there is nearly nothing you can miss. There are things that can be better and tracktion does them better, but there are almost nothing that cant be done in Reaper. I wouldnt say it about tracktion to be honest.

Btw. every daw should stole everything from fl studio pianoroll. world would be better.

[pdxindy]

To be honest, ive bought tracktion and i use it for mixing mainly. I love that inline mixing approach (so much that i dont use harrison mixbus for now ), but... the only feature ive found really revolutionary is freezing. This and tracktion template make it the best daw for laptops with small screens and not enough power but not just for them. This clip thing is possible with studio one also. Tracktion has a lot of things to get better to be honest. I like it but i ve never got how a lot of people are extremly enthusiasthic about it.

Btw. every daw should stole everything from fl studio pianoroll. world would be better.

+1 on every daw stealing from FL Studio Piano Roll... every single one I have tried is painful in comparison.

I own Tracktion, but don't use it. I prefer the Instrument Racks in Live far far more than the Tracktion Racks. Live's Racks are so fast and fluid. You can split/layers synths in seconds.

I find the midi editing annoying in Tracktion. You cannot just make the toolbar stay visible for example.

I so like the device panel in Live... with all the devices lined up in a row and Live's devices editable right there. I don't want to go back. Plus of course there is session view and I have Push. So I don't expect to switch back to Tracktion, but I do appreciate what Jules and team are doing since they regained control of it. They have a vision of the software and are developing it in creative ways. I can also see using Tracktion for the poly per note capability should I purchase such a controller which I have interest in doing.

[xx JPRacer xx]

+1 for MuLab!

[HobbyCore]

+1 for MuLab!

I would also say +1 in favor of MuLab if you are into any sort of effect/instrument manipulation. If you do a lot of audio work, it's really quite awful. If you primarily do simple to moderately complex midi stuff with a focus on layering or making your own instruments/effects... then MuLab is worth your time.

[HobbyCore]

@ HobbyCore: there's a thread in this page but don't remember the cathegory (probably\perhaps in "Everything Else")

I searched and looked at every thread on kvr with 'David Gilmour' and various mispellings. The only mention of Tracktion is your post.

I googled for every post on forums with the name 'David Gilmour' and various mispellings, then searched those results for the word 'Tracktion' and I found nothing again.

I'm pretty good at searching for things, so it would be nice if you could help me out here.

[fwsuperhero]

Yeah, mulab 6 is an quite amazing thing. I cant understand why it is not more hyped. Free version gives you mux (on mac os x at least) so you can do huge sound design even for free with it.
But there are things i would miss if i use it, mainly freezing and multiple clip editing.

[toothnclaw]

@ HobbyCore: there's a thread in this page but don't remember the cathegory (probably\perhaps in "Everything Else")

I searched and looked at every thread on kvr with 'David Gilmour' and various mispellings. The only mention of Tracktion is your post.

I googled for every post on forums with the name 'David Gilmour' and various mispellings, then searched those results for the word 'Tracktion' and I found nothing again.

I'm pretty good at searching for things, so it would be nice if you could help me out here.

Here you go:
http://www.mackie.com/artists/index.html?id=461&y=2005

Different person though.