A Good All-Round Reverb Plug-in
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- KVRAF
- 2824 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from cornwall
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- KVRAF
- 3086 posts since 4 May, 2012
Hehe. How else could this have gone?mholloway wrote:Please rename thread to a more correct title, "Could the denizens of KVR please list all the Reverb plugins that exist, post by post? Thanks!"
Also. Just checked out your music. Good stuff - and I love your artist name.
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Yeah - ask 50 people, get 50 opinions.
You can probably aggregate an all-rounder from there.
You can probably aggregate an all-rounder from there.
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
Not really, plenty of folks here said Breeze 2 and there were few folks who didn't even read opening line, so they suggested like 10 unrelated reverbs to the bunch, but it seems like jury is out on breeze.MogwaiBoy wrote:Yeah - ask 50 people, get 50 opinions.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here?
ShawnG
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Firstly, I do not think the "jury is out" means what you think it means. And, secondly, you could a blindfolded man to throw darts at a board full of reverb names, and 99% of them would likely do what the op wantd out of a reverb. I own about 8 'verbs, and I'd say only one is not set up for such duties, though I doubt it would be too difficult to get closeZexila wrote:Not really, plenty of folks here said Breeze 2 and there were few folks who didn't even read opening line, so they suggested like 10 unrelated reverbs to the bunch, but it seems like jury is out on breeze.MogwaiBoy wrote:Yeah - ask 50 people, get 50 opinions.
That's why everybody is giving their prefernce for a reverb that meets the op's needs. And the reason the list seems long, is because they pretty much all do what is needed
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
English is not my native and I picked most of it from watching and reading, so yeah, have no clue what half of the catchphrase's means really, just sound cool to use them I guess, but agree and already wrote exactly that in this thread, but list isn't that long as people are making it out to be, pretty much without two folks that made a list of their 10 favorite reverbs (with even convolution and separate plate and etc, OP clearly stated he wants all in one algorithmic, so yeah, it's just list of favorite reverbs), there's not much recommended, Breeze is most common one, just observation really.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:Firstly, I do not think the "jury is out" means what you think it means. And, secondly, you could a blindfolded man to throw darts at a board full of reverb names, and 99% of them would likely do what the op wantd out of a reverb. I own about 8 'verbs, and I'd say only one is not set up for such duties, though I doubt it would be too difficult to get closeZexila wrote:Not really, plenty of folks here said Breeze 2 and there were few folks who didn't even read opening line, so they suggested like 10 unrelated reverbs to the bunch, but it seems like jury is out on breeze.MogwaiBoy wrote:Yeah - ask 50 people, get 50 opinions.![]()
That's why everybody is giving their prefernce for a reverb that meets the op's needs. And the reason the list seems long, is because they pretty much all do what is needed
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here?
ShawnG
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Chandlerhimself Chandlerhimself https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318799
- KVRAF
- 1819 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
I’d also go with MTurboreverb. There is a ton of variety in it and it has a lot of options for shaping the sound.
Although I’m biased.
Although I’m biased.
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GrabtharsHammer GrabtharsHammer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=377531
- KVRian
- 543 posts since 7 Apr, 2016 from Bünde, Germany
Wow, this is like a DAW thread without Reaper fanboys. How could this happen?
My main reverb is PSP 2445 EMT, but I‘m not sure if it really could be called „a good allround reverb“, because it has a very specific sound. But I really like its minimalistic approach, and it‘s just sooo good for drums and reverb with shorter decay times.
Although I am quite happy with 2445, all the recommendations for Breeze 2 have summoned some GAS inside me... and I guess for $55 I will give it a try!
My main reverb is PSP 2445 EMT, but I‘m not sure if it really could be called „a good allround reverb“, because it has a very specific sound. But I really like its minimalistic approach, and it‘s just sooo good for drums and reverb with shorter decay times.
Although I am quite happy with 2445, all the recommendations for Breeze 2 have summoned some GAS inside me... and I guess for $55 I will give it a try!
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- KVRAF
- 16740 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: That's why everybody is giving their prefernce for a reverb that meets the op's needs. And the reason the list seems long, is because they pretty much all do what is needed
Not "everybody." I specifically recommended Ultrareverb, not because it's my favorite reverb, it isn't, but because it has the flexibility to be a more general reverb. I think about 2/3s of the recommendations here are bullshit. The Voxengo freebie? Seriously, GTFOH, it's hardly general and, frankly, it's not even a good free reverb. PSP2445, awesome reverb but it is absolutely a one trick pony.
Ultrareverb has algorithms for Halls, Chambers, Rooms, Plates and Ambience, pre/post delays, compression and EQ built in that can be applied in various ways. Above all that, the algorithms sound good and are derived from the H8000 hardware.
For someone asking the question posed here, I think that Ultrareverb provides a good balance of flexibility and simplification. It's not the most flexibile reverb, but it is very easy to use, and by use, I mean to program it to sculpt the sounds that you want.
Reverbs like mTurboVerb are certainly more flexibile, but perhaps too flexible for someone asking the question in the first place. If more people took the time to actually think about the question being asked and actually factor the constraints in their response then these threads wouldn't be quite so annoying.
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OneOfManyPauls OneOfManyPauls https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=382596
- KVRian
- 1150 posts since 17 Jul, 2016 from Wales, UK
This is what the OP said:ghettosynth wrote:Reverbs like mTurboVerb are certainly more flexibile, but perhaps too flexible for someone asking the question in the first place. If more people took the time to actually think about the question being asked and actually factor the constraints in their response then these threads wouldn't be quite so annoying.
So whilst it might be true that mturboreverb full is going to be overkill with the advanced editing and roll-your-own algorithms, in LE trim it really is a plug-in that genuinely covers all the bases by offering ~100 different reverb algorithms. So that's ambience, room, halls, huge, plate, spring, reverse etc covered in a single plugin.What I'm wondering is, is there a good-quality reverb plug-in that can do all these? From what I've seen, most reverb plug-ins do one thing well - either rooms or plates but there's not many that do these two and ambiences.
It's very easy to use too: select a reverb algorithm, select a preset for that reverb, and sculpt with the sensible selection of controls that LE gives.
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- KVRAF
- 16740 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I wasn't so much picking on the mTurboReverb rec as I was trying to frame my own. I didn't know that there was an LE version. Still, I think that 100 reverb algorithms is going to be overkill and overwhelming to someone asking the question that the OP is asking.OneOfManyPauls wrote:This is what the OP said:ghettosynth wrote:Reverbs like mTurboVerb are certainly more flexibile, but perhaps too flexible for someone asking the question in the first place. If more people took the time to actually think about the question being asked and actually factor the constraints in their response then these threads wouldn't be quite so annoying.
So whilst it might be true that mturboreverb full is going to be overkill with the advanced editing and roll-your-own algorithms, in LE trim it really is a plug-in that genuinely covers all the bases by offering ~100 different reverb algorithms. So that's ambience, room, halls, huge, plate, spring, reverse etc covered in a single plugin.What I'm wondering is, is there a good-quality reverb plug-in that can do all these? From what I've seen, most reverb plug-ins do one thing well - either rooms or plates but there's not many that do these two and ambiences.
It's very easy to use too: select a reverb algorithm, select a preset for that reverb, and sculpt with the sensible selection of controls that LE gives.
I think the best rec in the thread ATM is 2C's breeze because it is also flexible while not excessively complex and is currently on sale.
But, all of these recommendations for freebies like Orilriver are just missing the question completely. I think one poster recommended four average sounding focused purpose reverbs in one post. I don't think that you can miss it much more than that!
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Glad you took my comment in the spirit intended. It was certainly not to mock you.Zexila wrote:English is not my native and I picked most of it from watching and reading, so yeah, have no clue what half of the catchphrase's means really, just sound cool to use them I guess, but agree and already wrote exactly that in this thread, but list isn't that long as people are making it out to be, pretty much without two folks that made a list of their 10 favorite reverbs (with even convolution and separate plate and etc, OP clearly stated he wants all in one algorithmic, so yeah, it's just list of favorite reverbs), there's not much recommended, Breeze is most common one, just observation really.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:Firstly, I do not think the "jury is out" means what you think it means. And, secondly, you could a blindfolded man to throw darts at a board full of reverb names, and 99% of them would likely do what the op wantd out of a reverb. I own about 8 'verbs, and I'd say only one is not set up for such duties, though I doubt it would be too difficult to get closeZexila wrote:Not really, plenty of folks here said Breeze 2 and there were few folks who didn't even read opening line, so they suggested like 10 unrelated reverbs to the bunch, but it seems like jury is out on breeze.MogwaiBoy wrote:Yeah - ask 50 people, get 50 opinions.![]()
That's why everybody is giving their prefernce for a reverb that meets the op's needs. And the reason the list seems long, is because they pretty much all do what is needed
In my normal life, I am forced to speak in a second language, so I am aware of the struggle (I yearn for the day when my Spanish is as good as your English). Catchphrases, idioms etc exist at the higher-end of language learning, and get you that much closer to sounding like a native. I'd imagine that the reason you are as good an English speaker as you are is your willingness to experiment with things such as idioms, even at the risk of getting them a bit mixed up. I'm much more cautious before jumping...to my regret
Anyway, in this case, it means the opposite of what you thought - Right 'ballpark', though. Hope you can 'take it on the chin' and not get too 'down in the dumps' about it
With regard to 'Breeze 2'. I think the results are somewhat skewed given the current sale/voucher-combination price. At that price, it is a no-brainer, and would be my recommendation also. At it's normal retail price, it is still a great 'verb, but buying it without question is not as easy a proposition
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- KVRAF
- 16740 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Agreed, like Ultrareverb, I don't think it's quite the value at its normal price. And to be clear, I think that Breeze is more justifed at its regular price than Ultrareverb even. I think that if you consider price in the absence of a sale, Toneboosters R4 is hard to beat.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
With regard to 'Breeze 2'. I think the results are somewhat skewed given the current sale/voucher-combination price. At that price, it is a no-brainer, and would be my recommendation also. At it's normal retail price, it is still a great 'verb, but buying it without question is not as easy a proposition
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
cool stuff! ..the 1st episode (Product Focus - What Is The Best Reverb For Orchestral Samples?) got me to into seriously searching for a great and more realistic/natural sounding reverb and to be more acute/perceptive when judging the overall sound quality of a reverb.Zexila wrote:
but anyway, blind tests are both fun and revealing/clarifying at least what one's subjective taste is. If one has a hard time choosing from a blind test I guess it's either that the differences are very subtle or possibly the user is not experimented enough or unsure on what it wants
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
They do different things so I say it's not really that they are in different leagues. (although atm I feel that they are just a bitDJErmac wrote:That's just my opinion but I think they're not even in the same league. VVV is very good, there's no doubt about it, but Breeze 2 is top notch !DrMEM wrote:Any other thoughts on Valhalla Vintage Verb vs Breeze 2?
VVV is meant to emulate classic hardware units and Breeze2, to me seems more 'realistic/natural' sounding if that's the right term to use... (with certain settings of course)
I have and use VVV and Valhalla Plate quite a bit but Breeze2 is just a lovely and justifiably different reverb to purchase at least for me.
