A Good All-Round Reverb Plug-in
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 22 Aug, 2008
Hi Folks,
I've been reading up on various approaches to reverb in mixing. Seems that a common approach is to use three reverbs - a short "ambience" to put the sound in a space, a medium-length, bright reverb (usually a plate) for sounds at the front of the soundstage, and a large, hall-type reverb for sounds in the background.
What I'm wondering is, is there a good-quality reverb plug-in that can do all these? From what I've seen, most reverb plug-ins do one thing well - either rooms or plates but there's not many that do these two and ambiences.
At this stage I'm thinking that TSAR-1, PhoenixVerb and possibly Flux Verb Session 3 can provide all of these. Are there any others?
I've been reading up on various approaches to reverb in mixing. Seems that a common approach is to use three reverbs - a short "ambience" to put the sound in a space, a medium-length, bright reverb (usually a plate) for sounds at the front of the soundstage, and a large, hall-type reverb for sounds in the background.
What I'm wondering is, is there a good-quality reverb plug-in that can do all these? From what I've seen, most reverb plug-ins do one thing well - either rooms or plates but there's not many that do these two and ambiences.
At this stage I'm thinking that TSAR-1, PhoenixVerb and possibly Flux Verb Session 3 can provide all of these. Are there any others?
- KVRAF
- 37405 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRAF
- 7030 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
- KVRAF
- 6209 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
The 2CAudio verbs get my vote for everything reverb.
Sparkverb is actually top quality versatile, CPU efficient verb also.
EOS 2 has 3 plate algos and the superhall which is very lush in my opinion.
You mentioned Phoenix verb, which is ok, but more of an organic real-world kind of verb, less of an 'effect'.
EAreverb is quite 'organic' too, but can yield some crazy effects when pushed to the limits.
When you're talking about plates though, most convincing 'traditional' style plate verbs are actually specific models or devoted PLATE only reverbs. The Waves Abbey Roads is one of the best, but frighteningly taxing on the processor. Breeze 2 however is a very much modern take on the 'plate' sound, totally different kettle of fish.
Sparkverb is actually top quality versatile, CPU efficient verb also.
EOS 2 has 3 plate algos and the superhall which is very lush in my opinion.
You mentioned Phoenix verb, which is ok, but more of an organic real-world kind of verb, less of an 'effect'.
EAreverb is quite 'organic' too, but can yield some crazy effects when pushed to the limits.
When you're talking about plates though, most convincing 'traditional' style plate verbs are actually specific models or devoted PLATE only reverbs. The Waves Abbey Roads is one of the best, but frighteningly taxing on the processor. Breeze 2 however is a very much modern take on the 'plate' sound, totally different kettle of fish.
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- KVRAF
- 16735 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I really like Verb3, but, all reverbs have limitations and I wouldn't want it as my only reverb. I think that Eventide Ultraverb does a really good job of being very general. I'm on the fence with TSAR and although I like Exponential Audio's stuff well enough, it has a sound to my ears that is often not what I want. That said, I only have the one reverb from them that was a focusrite freebie.
I wouldn't pay full price for Ultraverb though. With Black Friday just around the corner there will undoubtedly be a sale.
That said, I don't see the point of what you're asking TBH. That's why I have quite a few reverbs, choose the best ones for the job that they do well. Soundtoys little plate is awesome, Waves AR plates is also good. I like Eventide's 2016 room for room sounds, but not always as it's somewhat dark. Ambience is all over the place depending on context.
Also, I see that you're referring to Verb3 session. It sounds good, but is not as flexible as the full Verb3, I would not choose it over Ultraverb if I was looking for flexibility.
I wouldn't pay full price for Ultraverb though. With Black Friday just around the corner there will undoubtedly be a sale.
That said, I don't see the point of what you're asking TBH. That's why I have quite a few reverbs, choose the best ones for the job that they do well. Soundtoys little plate is awesome, Waves AR plates is also good. I like Eventide's 2016 room for room sounds, but not always as it's somewhat dark. Ambience is all over the place depending on context.
Also, I see that you're referring to Verb3 session. It sounds good, but is not as flexible as the full Verb3, I would not choose it over Ultraverb if I was looking for flexibility.
- KVRist
- 66 posts since 15 Jun, 2018 from England
Exponential Audio R4.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 3 Nov, 2017
Before spending any money try https://www.kvraudio.com/product/orilri ... is-tihanov or search for Orilriver vst. It really is very good and its free.
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here?
ShawnG
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- KVRAF
- 2514 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
I use the following
PSP 2445
Eventide Blackhole
Past to Future Impulse Responses in Fog Convolver Fischer K-10 spring reverbs are out of this world
Ableton Reverb
Surreal Machines Diffuse
Surreal Machines Modnetic
Valhalla Room
A key for me is treating the source+verb wth a mid-side EQ, to distribute the frequencies. I use PSP e27.
PSP 2445
Eventide Blackhole
Past to Future Impulse Responses in Fog Convolver Fischer K-10 spring reverbs are out of this world
Ableton Reverb
Surreal Machines Diffuse
Surreal Machines Modnetic
Valhalla Room
A key for me is treating the source+verb wth a mid-side EQ, to distribute the frequencies. I use PSP e27.
- KVRist
- 89 posts since 3 Jul, 2018
You should definitely check out the Relab VSR S24. It's quite versatile: https://relabdevelopment.com/product/vsr-s24/
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 8 Jan, 2017
I'd say OrilRiver, Ambient Reverb, Voxengo OlodSkoolVerb anf Freeverb3 pack.
- KVRian
- 1367 posts since 21 Dec, 2013 from USA
Breeze 2 cannot be beaten if you have some $.
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Pro-R
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- KVRist
- 482 posts since 30 Apr, 2008 from St Louis, MO
Breeze 2.0 is the best deal for all purpose reverb. And it's still on 40% off summer sale for a few more days.
Breeze is a long term keeper even if you decide you want others. Also light CPU.
Breeze is a long term keeper even if you decide you want others. Also light CPU.
