Hi, search FModern Darkwilx wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:08 am Slightly off-topic, but how do I get the Melda plugins to look like the screenshot in the first post? It looks great, but I can't find that style...
thank you!FGranulizer 1 Beta (MSoundfactory Instrument Free)
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- KVRist
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- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
Here's a mashup of Jason's Sample Selector and a physical-modeling gen grid inspired by one of Chandler's videos, in which the sampler is creating the impulses to drive the modal filter…and the sampler has Jason's samples (ref'ed, anyway) and his selector available for dramatically changing the timbre of the output by switching up the samples, all ready and waiting for the Factory Sample collection to be released [it's here now: https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSoundF ... stallation], or for swapping in any set of 128 samples that don't care what names they get given:) There's also a Modal-filter randomizer on the Easy Screen page I picked up somewhere along the way, with some envelop adjusters… Thanks, Jason, and Falky for starting this great thread!
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- KVRist
- 206 posts since 23 Apr, 2006
Ah! Thanks. This is great. Is the gradient GUI a future update, or is that an MSoundFactory thing?
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- KVRist
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Okay, I'm really starting all over again, putting in a lot of work. I created a modulation page and wanted to create "only" two XY pads with freely assignable targets (10 only). Unfortunately you can't assign this on and off of the assigned parameters. Per voice I have only 4 assignable parameters and they have to be per voice, otherwise I can't turn the assignment off.Faiky wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:59 am I've start working on the Unison module, but with that I have to completely restructure some things, I think it will take some time, I just don't have much time. I think I'll make a separate control tab with two XY pads with freely definable routings. That will surely need some concentration. But I think this is the solution.
I am desperate. I imagined too much again. Whenever I build instruments I have a limit somewhere or I can't get any further. Then I invest hours in some creative workaround. That causes problems again. I have to stay simple.
Unison works so far when I automate the envelope via sample volume (otherwise the delay is interrupted). But the main envelope has to be set to maximum (time), otherwise the delay is interrupted and the simultaneous voices become huge so fast but they can't be heard. The averaged CPU.
I was so happy before and now just frustrated
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I have now philosophized about the unison but I don't see any great added value and cpu technically it's a killer. What do I want to achieve? More voices, I can set the speed extremely high. A nice pad carpet? Is possible, high repetition speed and random pitch. Overlapping grains is also possible. I could maybe randomize the speed at which the next grain is triggered. But why is it so important to have a modified copy of an specific grain? Why wouldn't it just be the next grain? Sounds softer, too.
I added the extra granulator for another reason, it shouldn't produce unison pads. It's for SFX. And a granular delay just fits better to the granulator. It has its very own strengths.
You can also consider "repetition speed" as a sample count. Simultaneous grains are possible by increasing the hold time. You can't use it to create this ragged effect, where there are still some slow grains following. But I also find it rather unpleasant.
I'm sorry, but I think I'm gonna have to row back there.
I'm saving my own modulation matrixes now, too. I find it easy to create an MSF instance in MSF to modulate it. You can see this as a module. I find XY pads just handy for scanning and pitching. You can just quickly try out an effect.
I think I will just create a sound selection now. If you play around with it you will soon realize what is possible and how powerful it can be
. And maybe I can make music after all
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
Thank you! Yeah, me too. So I'll now concentrate on a sample selection and insert a grain delay. If there are no other bugs, I'm done with thatDavid wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:00 pmToo bad! I was so happy with the original…and I still am!I was so happy before and now just frustrated
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
I've only ever found two MSF instruments that I can't play on my 5-year-old iMac, because of CPU limitations. They're both from you, Jason, and both use the Unison module! And both sound great until they don't work at all…but it's something to be considered.jmg8 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:59 pm Personally I think it needs to be in a unison. [emphasis added] Most granulizers have a number of grains control. It would give so much more options for effecting each grain individually.
I wouldn't worry about the samples thing. There is an essential factory pack of samples coming real soon and you can just preload these into your device. It is recommended that all MSF owners install the pack, so this means your device will load the correct samples for everyone. Then create a way to browse them from the easy screen.
I can help if you need anything.
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- KVRist
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- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
Is there now a better way to select the factory samples with an MP?
@MeldaProduction
Otherwise, could I make this available as a device or have I still not fulfilled certain requirements?
I intentionally made a one-screen layout because it is very popular and all parameters fit on it.
But I could adapt it for the mass if necessary.
Then here's what I'll do:
- Add help for the parameters
- Upload my latest version, las testing by users
- create device
- creating presets
- let creating presets (all users are welcome to help there)
maybe I can create videos if this works with screen recording.
@MeldaProduction
Otherwise, could I make this available as a device or have I still not fulfilled certain requirements?
I intentionally made a one-screen layout because it is very popular and all parameters fit on it.
But I could adapt it for the mass if necessary.
Then here's what I'll do:
- Add help for the parameters
- Upload my latest version, las testing by users
- create device
- creating presets
- let creating presets (all users are welcome to help there)
maybe I can create videos if this works with screen recording.
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
Don't know about a "better" way, but the same old way is now better in that there are now presets to simplify each step.
Here's how I use them:
First load a Sampler module, then look in the Presets folder for that, as shown in the top image below, and navigate to the folder shown, then load one of the options there (keep this popup open or remember the name of the preset you loaded!). Then open the Advanced Settings panel by clicking on the Advanced button in the region editor, as shown in the 2nd image below. Go to the Manual Tab so you can see the Sample Selector knob.
Next, open the MP panel and Quick Learn the Sample Selector Knob, as shown in the top image below. by twisting it its full range. You'll now have an Easy Screen control for the selection of samples in this particular Sampler Preset, which is one of the Factory Collections, already placed in a Bank, presumably by jmg8 (THANK YOU!!) Open the MP edit panel as shown in the 2nd image below and switch to the BANKS tab.
NOW open the Presets browser for the BANKS MPs, as I've done in the image below (right-most purple rectangle), and select the SAME PRESET NAME as you did from the Sampler Presets, still open above it in my grab below. This way the sample names in your ES control will match the actual samples loaded, but only if you also set By Bank Name in the Value Mode dropdown I've highlighted in the left-most purple rectangle below.
You can change to a new sample collection using these same presets, and the original MP will still work, with the sample names updated:)
The device in the screen grabs (called Factory Sample Selector) is now in the MSF Global Presets Exchange, including a link back to this post. (That last part was an after-thought; ignore the first instance of it.)
Here's how I use them:
First load a Sampler module, then look in the Presets folder for that, as shown in the top image below, and navigate to the folder shown, then load one of the options there (keep this popup open or remember the name of the preset you loaded!). Then open the Advanced Settings panel by clicking on the Advanced button in the region editor, as shown in the 2nd image below. Go to the Manual Tab so you can see the Sample Selector knob.
Next, open the MP panel and Quick Learn the Sample Selector Knob, as shown in the top image below. by twisting it its full range. You'll now have an Easy Screen control for the selection of samples in this particular Sampler Preset, which is one of the Factory Collections, already placed in a Bank, presumably by jmg8 (THANK YOU!!) Open the MP edit panel as shown in the 2nd image below and switch to the BANKS tab.
NOW open the Presets browser for the BANKS MPs, as I've done in the image below (right-most purple rectangle), and select the SAME PRESET NAME as you did from the Sampler Presets, still open above it in my grab below. This way the sample names in your ES control will match the actual samples loaded, but only if you also set By Bank Name in the Value Mode dropdown I've highlighted in the left-most purple rectangle below.
You can change to a new sample collection using these same presets, and the original MP will still work, with the sample names updated:)
The device in the screen grabs (called Factory Sample Selector) is now in the MSF Global Presets Exchange, including a link back to this post. (That last part was an after-thought; ignore the first instance of it.)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
Thank you David! Nice, jmg8 seems to have created a preset for almost all categories, great!David wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:12 pm Don't know about a "better" way, but the same old way is now better in that there are now presets to simplify each step.
Here's how I use them:
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The synths were not the best samples for a granulator.
I only miss the Impacts, because these are the samples that would be most suitable.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
Oh sorry, found it! Thank youjmg8 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:12 am What do you mean "miss the impacts" they should be there too. I made presets for them (I think)
Now I have another problem. The links between MP and advance sample settings like sample start position is only valid for the first sample. So I have to set up all samples to the MPs. More time consuming work.