Tracktion Software

bighorse · Post by **bighorse** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:11 pm

headquest wrote:In terms of recommending Tracktion 1 to students (including some who are younger than teenagers) the $80 price tag was a major advantage. $200 is probably unrealistic for most of my school age pupils. The flexibility of FL5 pricing structure makes it a tempting recommendation which I am now seriously considering as an alternative. (I downloaded the demo, not being an FL user, and so far I'm very impressed indeed...)

Often overlooked is the fact that Tracktion doesn't restrict you to one platform - projects started on Mac can be finished on PC, and vice-versa. I run both PCs and Macs, and these days I won't buy any audio software that isn't dual platform.

If any of your students own a Mac instead of PC, then FL doesn't seem such a good choice... (this is not a pro PC or pro Mac statement, as I said, I use both)

cheers

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:24 pm

That's a good point. I don't know of any students that have macs though. By the same token, Garageband 2 looks awesome - but they wouldn't have that at home. I think the vast majority of households here in the UK have Windows PCs. I agree that being dual platform is one of Tracktion's strengths, of course.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:15 am

bighorse wrote:Often overlooked is the fact that Tracktion doesn't restrict you to one platform - projects started on Mac can be finished on PC, and vice-versa. I run both PCs and Macs, and these days I won't buy any audio software that isn't dual platform.

This is exactly why I chose Tracktion.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:35 am

im sticking with T1 screw upgrades... its just bloatware dood

no us428 supprot.

no ronald money.

jk

cant wait

RONC

sean808080 · Post by **sean808080** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:56 am

in my opinion the longer they take to make users happy, the lower the price will have to be before some of us upgrade. i think mackie is mismanaging this upgrade and alienating users pretty effectively.

M'Snah · Post by **M'Snah** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:09 am

sean808080 wrote:in my opinion the longer they take to make users happy, the lower the price will have to be before some of us upgrade. i think mackie is mismanaging this upgrade and alienating users pretty effectively.

I think Mackie is doing what they have to do to put a very powerful new sequencer release in the market. Why would the price be *lower* if they do a solid beta-test to make sure the new release is solid and reliable? IMO the price should be lower if they released it last month, because that would imply new users doing part of the beta testing

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:31 am

the demo was a sneaky public beta

...but I'm perfectly fine with that, you guys have done a good job at finding bugs

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:33 am

pakana wrote:the demo was a sneaky public beta

...but I'm perfectly fine with that, you guys have done a good job at finding bugs

Damn!! I didn't know that! I thought the demo was there so that prospective buyers could assess whether they want to part with their money for T2

Does that mean all the bugs are going to be fixed at last?

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:57 am

Going back to the "with or without plugins" issue check this http://trio.harmony-central.com/ramgen/ ... ktion-2.rm video from the groundhog days. Pay attention at ~6:00

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:46 pm

headquest wrote:
pakana wrote:the demo was a sneaky public beta

...but I'm perfectly fine with that, you guys have done a good job at finding bugs
Damn!! I didn't know that! I thought the demo was there so that prospective buyers could assess whether they want to part with their money for T2

Does that mean all the bugs are going to be fixed at last?

Yeah, I'm not sure there is anything to indicate bug fixes are in the works from demo user feedback. I don't think you can really consider it a public beta. It would be disingenuous for them to do that intentionally anyway.

sean808080 · Post by **sean808080** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:04 pm

am i the only one that thinks mackie is spoiling the good efforts of the raw material crew?

it seems to me that beno and the rm crew were great at building a community of like minded folks and keeping them energized.

mackie seems to be squandering that kind of buzz and treating users like cogs in a wheel to digital audio domination.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:14 pm

No sean, you're not the only one who thinks/feels that way. Look at some older threads and you'll spot quite a lot of names from the past - people who have basically moved on.

With this release I certainly know of a few well known users in these parts who probably won't be upgrading (and I won't be). Very sad

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:23 pm

I will be continuing, but I would like to see the energy going into the product itself rather than a bunch of (mostly) freeware plugs. I already have Ticky Clav and Cheese Machine (both are great) - now via Mackies licensing I will have to pay for them. Finally they are pitching poor T as a "semi-pro" app - once tarred with that brush it may be hard ever to shake that (wrong imo) impression. I'm sorry to gripe (sort of!) but Mackie may as well hear and maybe even respond if they can.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:29 pm

Beno IS from Mackie, you realize, Sean?

jtxx000 · Post by **jtxx000** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:35 pm

afaik jules is RMS... everyone else involved with T is from mackie.

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