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rawcan · Post by **rawcan** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:54 pm

I think without some metering a limiter wouldn't be good at the output. I personally prefer a good output level of the plug which wouldn't need a limiter anyway.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:13 pm

0db is maximum digital level,
so an output limiter would prevent digital clipping.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:20 pm

Midiworks wrote:0db is maximum digital level,
so an output limiter would prevent digital clipping.

So would paying attention to your levels..

Thumbs down on built-in limiter; there's too many other free ones or commercial ones already available that are probably better designed than what you'd come up with as a intergrated component..That and I can't see how it wouldn't color the sound.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:21 pm

Well....

The 0db digital clipping thing is only for A/D conversion. Once a signal is *inside* a host, as long as you're using enough bit depth, you can go significantly higher than 0db without digital distortion.

Where it comes in handy is during mixdown, in preparation for going through a D/A conversion.

So, on second consideration, and since I DO have limiters I'm pleased with already, I change my vote to a 'nah, don't bother' as well.

Greg

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:57 pm

My spies inform me that Sicklecell666 wrote: Thumbs down on built-in limiter; there's too many other free ones or commercial ones already available that are probably better designed than what you'd come up with as a intergrated component..That and I can't see how it wouldn't color the sound.

Err, sorry for asking what is very likely a newb's question, but how would limiting color the sound? All you're doing is turning it down at a certain point, right?

Unless non-linear amplification colors sound, right? That would explain all those "power of 2" terms...

mondo tormento · Post by **mondo tormento** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:20 am

dimitar: why would you use a limiter on your guitar signal? To me, limiters/compressors kills the dynamics that are part of the 'amp sound'.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:43 am

mondo tormento: that would depend a lot on a few things, though. A limiter or compressor isn't insta-kill unless the gain is boosted to FORCE limiting. If it's just there for rogue peaks, you should still have lots of dynamics.

Also, since driven amps already introduce a very healthy amount of compression, a limiter shouldn't muck up the sound. The heavier the distortion, the more compressed the result will be on a real amp, too. Dynamics with chugga-chugga distortion types, for example, are created with different techniques (different muting methods, for example) rather than with the actual ups and downs in volume (which are rather non-existent).

Greg

dimitar · Post by **dimitar** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:31 am

mondo tormento wrote:dimitar: why would you use a limiter on your guitar signal? To me, limiters/compressors kills the dynamics that are part of the 'amp sound'.

I dont know!

Ohhh my Why I tell you!!!!!!!!!
You are all professor here

this is rhythm guitar I dont need dynamics!!!

Here is some dynamics
http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/Jack ... gh_Mix.mp3

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:43 am

Dimitar, I like it !

Thanks !!!
No problems with dynamic here.

PS. Do you ever check your email ?

dimitar · Post by **dimitar** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:50 am

Midiworks wrote:Dimitar, I like it ! Thanks !!!
No problems with dynamic here.

PS. Do you ever check your email ?

Yeaa...rarely but Yes! I get all your mails:)

rawcan · Post by **rawcan** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:02 am

Ah cool,

he already is a beta tester. Cool...

Edited: tyypopypo

dimitar · Post by **dimitar** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:25 am

rawcan wrote:Ah cool,

he already is a beta tester. Cool...

Edited: tyypopypo

rawcan · Post by **rawcan** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:32 am

dimitar wrote:
rawcan wrote:Ah cool,

he already is a beta tester. Cool...

Edited: tyypopypo

Yes,

let me have some fun. I know this game. I was into it.

All the best, FRitz

mondo tormento · Post by **mondo tormento** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:19 pm

dimitar wrote:Here is some dynamics
http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/Jack ... gh_Mix.mp3

Great playing and some good guitar sounds too!

Does anyone want to add some ACDC rhytm guitars, I'm curious how that type of playing would sound through Midiworks plugin.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:20 pm

mondo tormento wrote: Does anyone want to add some ACDC rhytm guitars, I'm curious how that type of playing would sound through Midiworks plugin.

I allready recorded some pattern with my 335 clone (which is coming pretty close to the Guild Malcom Young is playing). Would like to hear that one amplified as well.

Guitar players, The soundclick MP3 demo page got updated !