Zebralette 3 Public Beta Announcement (Revision 15573)
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 21 Feb, 2024
I’m standing in line for when Zebra 3 comes out, because I’m so impressed with the sounds I’ve been getting from Zebralette 3!
I have just one feature request, while I’m playing with a demo version of Zebra HZ and considering buying that too: It would be great if the already fabulous arpeggiator, when added to Zebra 3, could handle 32 notes instead of just 16, to enable greater complexity to repeated phrases.
Thanks for your consideration.
I have just one feature request, while I’m playing with a demo version of Zebra HZ and considering buying that too: It would be great if the already fabulous arpeggiator, when added to Zebra 3, could handle 32 notes instead of just 16, to enable greater complexity to repeated phrases.
Thanks for your consideration.
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 18 Mar, 2004
It would be great if all Zebra2 FX could be included as legacy FX, with somewhat similar naming and param values in the .h2p
Yes, we all know Z2 presets won't be officially supported in Z3, but I can 100% guarantee users will do everything possible to convert them as best as possible.
Many of the classic Z2 FX are old enough to vote at this point, and long time users will have their own favourites they know well and it would be a shame if they weren't included for 'arbitrary reasons.'
- KVRAF
- 26927 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Not for arbitrary reasons, but because u-he can do better today.AtomOfScent wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:39 pm Many of the classic Z2 FX are old enough to vote at this point, and long time users will have their own favourites they know well and it would be a shame if they weren't included for 'arbitrary reasons.'
The last thing I want is a bunch of dead weight hanging on in Zebra 3 just for some imagined compatibility that's not going to be there anyway. One of the exciting aspects of Zebra 3 is the break from the past. We will get a new synth with the same basic structure but all new and improved modules.
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- KVRian
- 886 posts since 14 May, 2014
I agree and disagree. The oscillators, filters, etc, will breathe completely new life into these effects. They'll tangibly sound different and better. Certainly the resonators and unusual effects stuff that Hans requested haven't aged. I think it's something u-he will have to experiment with a make a judgment call, though certainly I'm not against users having a say if there's something they'd like to cross over.
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- KVRist
- 326 posts since 11 Jan, 2022
lukalebanidze wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:52 pm Hi Urs, I tend to use Zebrify a lot with its modulation and comb filters, which enable me to shape the sounds in a way I imagine. I wish the modules from Zebra HZ were available in Zebrify. So I also hope Zebra 3 will have an FX version. Thanks
_al_ wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:56 am I remember asking this question like, 8 years ago or something and I think he said yes, it WILL be included.
But not sure if that is still the case. A lot can change in 8 years.
But lets hope it's included. That thing was basically like a channel rack for me.
Still have multiple instances in every track
Urs wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:24 pm Our focus is on the synth. We'll probably try to give it an audio input feature, which might do the trick without an extra fx plug-in.
limitlesssss wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:20 pm Will that audio input feature be extended to Repro-1 and Repro-5 too? So their effects can be used on input audio please?
Urs wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:30 pm If audio inputs for instruments turn out to be feasible, the signal path will be determined by the voice structure. I don't think it makes any sense (e.g. business-wise) for us to bypass the voices and route the audio input to the effects section directly. As the voices of Repro and Diva are monophonic and always contain filters, I'm not entirely sure this is what people expect it to be.
limitlesssss wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:36 pm What if the synth section could be disabled when audio input is enabled? Does that solve the problem?
Urs wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:12 pm It would create several problems...
The best outcome here is audio input for instruments, routed into the voice structure. This seems doable without big changes to pricing models, user experience, marketing and so on.
If someone can kindly please explain what Urs means by “audio input for instruments, routed into the voice structure”, I would very much appreciate it. I feel like I still don't exactly understand what he means. Does implementing “audio input for instruments, routed into the voice structure” mean that you can send direct audio to (Z3, Repro-1, ...) and use their effects sections, and then output the audio with the effects applied?limitlesssss wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:11 pm Would you please explain what you mean by Audio Input for Instruments? Isn't it the same thing I'm asking for? If it's the same thing I'm asking for, I'd love to have Audio Input for Repro-1.
So If by “audio input for instruments, routed into the voice structure” you mean we can route audio into Repro-1, then I would absolutely love it. Thank you Urs.
BTW: Even though I would very much appreciate Urs' own answer, I don't want to take his valuable time anymore on this question. That's why I'm asking other knowledgeable members here. But I nevertheless had to quote him for the context of my question.
Thank you again.
- u-he
- 30175 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
"Routing through the voice structure" means "not bypassing the synth engine" and therefore "not routing audio input to the effects directly".
It means, one would be using the audio input instead of an oscillator, or instead of the noise generator, or instead of the feedback module. Most likely, the audio input would be routed into the synth's filter. Then into the VCA, and from there into the effects section.
And as I said, audio input in Diva or Repro would therefore be monophonic, because the voice structure is monophonic. It's different in Hive and Zebra where the voice structure is stereo.
It means, one would be using the audio input instead of an oscillator, or instead of the noise generator, or instead of the feedback module. Most likely, the audio input would be routed into the synth's filter. Then into the VCA, and from there into the effects section.
And as I said, audio input in Diva or Repro would therefore be monophonic, because the voice structure is monophonic. It's different in Hive and Zebra where the voice structure is stereo.
- KVRAF
- 26927 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Routed into the voice structure means the audio would be like an oscillator. It would go to the mixer, filters, vca's and then to the FX.limitlesssss wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:22 pm
If someone can kindly please explain what Urs means by “audio input for instruments, routed into the voice structure”, I would very much appreciate it.
Oops... Urs beat me to it
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- KVRist
- 326 posts since 11 Jan, 2022
Thank you Urs for the explanation. I now understand what you meant. You're saying that since Repro is monophonic, it cannot input stereo signals.Urs wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:47 pm "Routing through the voice structure" means "not bypassing the synth engine" and therefore "not routing audio input to the effects directly".
It means, one would be using the audio input instead of an oscillator, or instead of the noise generator, or instead of the feedback module. Most likely, the audio input would be routed into the synth's filter. Then into the VCA, and from there into the effects section.
And as I said, audio input in Diva or Repro would therefore be monophonic, because the voice structure is monophonic. It's different in Hive and Zebra where the voice structure is stereo.
But I just want to input *mono* signals to Repro and use the Repro's effects and then output the result. So I don't think Repro having a monophonic voice structure is problematic in this case. And since it can only input mono signals, it's not competing with your stereo effect plug-ins either.
But if you still think it wouldn't make sense to do this, I understand and respect that.
Thank you again Urs and sorry for the confusion.
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 13 Aug, 2019
Hi,Codesound wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:33 pm Hi,
Linux user here. Congratulations on this project! I'm speechless! Diva remains my favorite instrument, but now I try to look at this wonder. How can I edit the .sh script to install the .clap version ONLY? Thank you very much
cheers
install it and then delete the .vst3 file
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 3397 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
no idea. but in the first post there's a mac/win/linux installer you can download and find out.capo-capo wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:18 am Hi,
Is Zebralette 3 compatible with Linux Ubuntu 24.04 arm64, on orange pi 5 plus, or any other plugins?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2170 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 20 Dec, 2007 from Stone Mountain / Atlanta, Ga
Zebralette 3 is already a powerhouse of Awesomeness. Thank you for your ongoing work and all that has been done so far.
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