Will Cakewalk ever release a new version of Raputre?

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Would you be interested in a Cakewalk update for Rapture.

Poll ended at Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:15 am

Yes, Rapture is unique and deserves the treatment.
46
79%
No, Rapture isn't worth it.
12
21%
 
Total votes: 58

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Would love to see Z3TA+ get resurrected...

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I'd surely love to see a Z3TA 3... if they vamp up the synth engine, build in some new filters, and bring it a bit more up to date with the tech 2021.

I highly doubt that will happen though. I don't even know if the people who have worked on Z3TA 2 still work for Cakewalk/Bandlab, and, VSTi's don't exactly seem like cash cows, and they'd have to compete with the crème de la crème of soft synths out there.

I like Z3TA 2's architecture. In general, I wonder why wave shaping synths hold such a niche extistence. But, there's loads of better sounding synths these days, and, whenever I fire up Z3TA 2, it makes me wonder why I don't just boot up Sylenth1 or Spire instead. Z3TA's filter aren't really good (think harsh * 100), and the sound of the raw oscillators and the envelopes aren't that great either.

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chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:34 pm I'd surely love to see a Z3TA 3... if they vamp up the synth engine, build in some new filters, and bring it a bit more up to date with the tech 2021.
:tu:

The one guy who could really make this happen is Rene...

An upgraded Rapture Pro would be pretty cool too :wink:
No auto tune...

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I would have to say that the new Surge is probably better than any Z3TA 3 could ever be.

The former Cakewalk team developed Z3TA+2 without Rene, after he had left the company.
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Windows 10 and too many plugins

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I have always found that the original Rapture had a special type of sound.

Here's a quote from Rene, that I suspect may be a clue to his genius:

"So what exactly IS rapture anyway?
Rapture will get the frequency spectrum of any sample you provide to it, and will re-synthesize it to get an oscillator which won't alias in the whole audible range out of it. It's not grabbing one cycle of a waveform and looping, no."
Windows 10 and too many plugins

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digitalboytn wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:19 am
chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:34 pm I'd surely love to see a Z3TA 3... if they vamp up the synth engine, build in some new filters, and bring it a bit more up to date with the tech 2021.
:tu:

The one guy who could really make this happen is Rene...

An upgraded Rapture Pro would be pretty cool too :wink:
I doubt the VST business, or Cakewalk, would pay him as much as this lot, where he's a director;

https://www.newsan.com.ar/en/about-us/

He's still messing about with the sinthesisers though, building his own DIY chips and stuff... :o

https://hackaday.com/2020/02/22/introdu ... zer-board/

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donkey tugger wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:51 pm
I doubt the VST business, or Cakewalk, would pay him as much as this lot, where he's a director;

https://www.newsan.com.ar/en/about-us/

He's still messing about with the sinthesisers though, building his own DIY chips and stuff... :o

https://hackaday.com/2020/02/22/introdu ... zer-board/
And here:

This FM Synthesizer Module Is Built on an FPGA - René Ceballos has built an open source FM synthesizer around an FPGA.
https://www.hackster.io/news/this-fm-sy ... 558a57177b

The XVA1 Synthesizer Module
https://www.futur3soundz.com/
Windows 10 and too many plugins

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zzz00m wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:29 pm I would have to say that the new Surge is probably better than any Z3TA 3 could ever be.
I'm not a big fan of the GUI, TBH... to say the least.

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chk071 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:36 pm
zzz00m wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:29 pm I would have to say that the new Surge is probably better than any Z3TA 3 could ever be.
I'm not a big fan of the GUI, TBH... to say the least.
It's comparable as far as the sound and waveshaping. Z3TA gui wasn't the best either.
Windows 10 and too many plugins

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No, but, better than Surge's, IMO.

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58 votes in seven years.
Wow!
This is a burner...

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martinjuenke wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:23 pm 58 votes in seven years.
Wow!
This is a burner...
LOL!!!

And it was dormant for the last 16 months until somebody awakened the zombie yesterday... :lol:
Windows 10 and too many plugins

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zzz00m wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:13 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:51 pm
I doubt the VST business, or Cakewalk, would pay him as much as this lot, where he's a director;

https://www.newsan.com.ar/en/about-us/

He's still messing about with the sinthesisers though, building his own DIY chips and stuff... :o

https://hackaday.com/2020/02/22/introdu ... zer-board/
And here:

This FM Synthesizer Module Is Built on an FPGA - René Ceballos has built an open source FM synthesizer around an FPGA.
https://www.hackster.io/news/this-fm-sy ... 558a57177b

The XVA1 Synthesizer Module
https://www.futur3soundz.com/
Those FM and VA hardware modules are so cool...

The original Z3TA was going to be ported over to hardware,but it didn't happen...

Fast foward to the 21st century and we have faster chips that require way less power and you can put a synth module in your pocket...

Everything Rene is involved with is inspiring and is powered by his genius,so it's exciting...

I left hardware a while ago,but I'd be interested in a crowd funding project for those synths because you just know that they would be killer :wink:
No auto tune...

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chk071 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:36 pm
zzz00m wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:29 pm I would have to say that the new Surge is probably better than any Z3TA 3 could ever be.
I'm not a big fan of the GUI, TBH... to say the least.
We're working on it. :)

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zzz00m wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:33 pm I have always found that the original Rapture had a special type of sound.

Here's a quote from Rene, that I suspect may be a clue to his genius:

"So what exactly IS rapture anyway?
Rapture will get the frequency spectrum of any sample you provide to it, and will re-synthesize it to get an oscillator which won't alias in the whole audible range out of it. It's not grabbing one cycle of a waveform and looping, no."
Yeah, it still sounds good after all these years. It could give a really "sharp" sound without sounding harsh.
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