Plus he has an invisible pet dragon. True.
I found pirated Uhe software
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
"Genius software cowboy"? Yes, that's not a bad description of Urs 
Plus he has an invisible pet dragon. True.
Plus he has an invisible pet dragon. True.
- KVRAF
- 4080 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Delfinoverde wrote:
And WHO you think you are? Some sort of genius software sheriff/cowboy?
Who says that the latest o-so-protected U-hes haven't been cracked?
Only because they haven't been published doesn't mean nothing.
But please believe what you like to believe…
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- KVRAF
- 26976 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
You're just annoyed that you have not been able to find them for yourself...Delfinoverde wrote:Urs wrote:The guy is slightly off. Thinks he knows something or someone important in the reverse engineering scene. But alas, there is noone important in that scene. I even doubt there is something worth calling a scene.
And WHO you think you are? Some sort of genius software sheriff/cowboy?
Who says that the latest o-so-protected U-hes haven't been cracked?
Only because they haven't been published doesn't mean nothing.
But please believe what you like to believe…
- Beware the Quoth
- 35482 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
You constantly seem to have a real emotional investment in the alleged existence of cracks for particular bits of software, dont you.Delfinoverde wrote:Urs wrote:The guy is slightly off. Thinks he knows something or someone important in the reverse engineering scene. But alas, there is noone important in that scene. I even doubt there is something worth calling a scene.
And WHO you think you are? Some sort of genius software sheriff/cowboy?
Who says that the latest o-so-protected U-hes haven't been cracked?
Only because they haven't been published doesn't mean nothing.
But please believe what you like to believe…
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from Berlin, Germany
Yes, Urs is very devoted to these things. He loves that. I personally was a bit so-so when I joined the team, partly because I wasn't used to care that much from my ex-job (Magix might probably be big enough to be able to even out the risks, and they got multiple business models and markets at their disposal). But meanwhile I learned that actively facing piracy is inevitable for our 'small' company to survive. We currently are 8 full-time people living directly on our products and sales, therefore I'm glad Urs carries on doing such 'sport'. Keeps him young and in shapechk071 wrote: Sounds almost like you guys are making a sport out of this.But good job really. Just hope that it's not too time consuming. On the other hand it's always a cost/benefit calculation i guess.
Sascha Eversmeier [formerly digitalfishphones]
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- u-he
- 30215 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I'm the guy who has proof that crackers are morons, who have no friends but what rather appears to be deluded deciples.Delfinoverde wrote:And WHO you think you are? Some sort of genius software sheriff/cowboy?
Who says that the latest o-so-protected U-hes haven't been cracked?
Only because they haven't been published doesn't mean nothing.
But please believe what you like to believe…
I'm also the guy who points that out whenever he can. I'm furthermore the guy who had all sorts of repercussions annonced to him, and they never came. Or I've never seen them, should they have occurred.
You now have the glorious opportunity to prove me wrong. Send those cracked versions (rev2000+) by email. We'll quickly reverse the crack, and if genuine I will post an apology.
- KVRAF
- 5817 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
We all know who Urs is. We do not know who YOU are, apart from a crackers fanboy and regular smartass.Delfinoverde wrote:Urs wrote:The guy is slightly off. Thinks he knows something or someone important in the reverse engineering scene. But alas, there is noone important in that scene. I even doubt there is something worth calling a scene.
And WHO you think you are? Some sort of genius software sheriff/cowboy?
Who says that the latest o-so-protected U-hes haven't been cracked?
Only because they haven't been published doesn't mean nothing.
But please believe what you like to believe…
And if those cracks that you cherish so much haven't been published, how can we google them?
"A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig."
- Banned
- 254 posts since 7 Jun, 2008 from On this 1 world!
Urs wrote: I'm the guy who has proof that crackers are morons, who have no friends but what rather appears to be deluded deciples.
Calling other people "morons" makes you equal to them!
Reverse Engineering is a form of ART. Furthermore nearly all developers learn many things from Reverse Engineers. Another thing is when folks distribute cracks that were meant to kept secret. The "deluded Disciples" as you say, are many times deluded ex-customers. So this should make developers think about their own mistakes…
- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from Berlin, Germany
I can't see why developing software and selling it to customers is a mistake. What do you accuse us for, exactly? That we try to protect our work? Again, we're no hobbyists doing that for fun and art, we're doing it for a living. Some of us have families. We're professionals, in the true sense of that word. Nevermind, if you're not willing to understand that, that's ok, we can live with that.Delfinoverde wrote:So this should make developers think about their own mistakes…
Sascha Eversmeier [formerly digitalfishphones]
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
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- KVRAF
- 2158 posts since 11 Oct, 2007 from Almanya
Pulling apart something doesn't mean you understand how it works, if at all you're able to put it back together again.Delfinoverde wrote:Reverse Engineering is a form of ART.
If those "artists" had any skill, they wouldn't be weeding through the intestines of other people's creations, but much rather be impressing us all with creative products of their own.
If any of those Reverse Engineers were worth more than a tired smile, they'd be coding DSP themselves instead of trying to understand why all their "working" cracks expire.
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 11 Dec, 2008 from Minneapolis
Delfinoverde wrote: Reverse Engineering is a form of ART.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35482 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Interesting theory as to how adjectives work. Is that why you're so arselickingly proud of them, because you think by calling them clever it means you're clever?Delfinoverde wrote:Urs wrote: I'm the guy who has proof that crackers are morons, who have no friends but what rather appears to be deluded deciples.
Calling other people "morons" makes you equal to them!![]()
No, its merely a form of engineering, there's no higher philosophical or cultural importance or merit to it.Reverse Engineering is a form of ART.
God, you really do worship those c**ts dont you. And yet, if they're so f**king creative, makes you wonder why they don't actually create anything.Furthermore nearly all developers learn many things from Reverse Engineers.
Deluded, self-entitled, and greedy ex-customers, you mean.The "deluded Disciples" as you say, are many times deluded ex-customers.
Well, the primary mistake would be in selling something to someone who subsequently thinks he's entitled to anything he wants for free.So this should make developers think about their own mistakes…
Big proponent of anything else like that, are you? If you cant get something you want legitimately, you're entitled to it anyway, right?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
Delfinoverde wrote:Urs wrote:The guy is slightly off. Thinks he knows something or someone important in the reverse engineering scene. But alas, there is noone important in that scene. I even doubt there is something worth calling a scene.
And WHO you think you are? Some sort of genius software sheriff/cowboy?
Who says that the latest o-so-protected U-hes haven't been cracked?
Only because they haven't been published doesn't mean nothing.
But please believe what you like to believe…
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.
- u-he
- 30215 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Well, cracktards live in hiding, obviously. I hope they feel really embarrassed by the way they are represented here.
The idea that there's *anything* to be learned from cracktards is just hilarious
The idea that there's *anything* to be learned from cracktards is just hilarious
