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dusted william · Post by **dusted william** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:23 am

The demos sound amazing!

dw

ftech · Post by **ftech** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:25 am

Those wooden end cheeks just need a little chip out of the bottom left corner to look like my Juno6

Very keen to try Diva.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:28 am

Urs wrote:we're contemplating to add "muffle" parameters though to constrain cutoff frequencies where they don't go to 20+ kHz
Urs

"I'm sorry, but those VAs just can't compare to Diva. Do they have muffling?"

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:40 am

Gonga wrote:What you're experiencing is the frustration that Socrates' pupils felt when he forced them to examine their own questions more deeply, and thus actually finding the answers they were looking for. The only way truly to answer your questions, which are valid questions, is to answer them yourself, for they are too broad and general, and Urs' synths are too broad and general . . .

Gonga, Thanks for taking the time to respond. Much appreciated!

I think I'll wander the streets looking for Socrates . . . and I'm sorry to say . . . if I find that frustrating bald-headed, robe-wearing, scatter-brained little bugger I will beat him like a redheaded stepchild, and then run off into the desert screaming, "Can someone give me a straight answer for Heaven's Sake!"

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Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:40 am

taoyoyo wrote:
xend54 wrote:
taoyoyo wrote:Somehow I'm patiently waiting...
i have been here for hours
Hope you have a bucket handy for all that drool!

When this baby's born I hope there won't be arguments over who the real father is

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:51 am

tommyzai wrote:
Gonga wrote:What you're experiencing is the frustration that Socrates' pupils felt when he forced them to examine their own questions more deeply, and thus actually finding the answers they were looking for. The only way truly to answer your questions, which are valid questions, is to answer them yourself, for they are too broad and general, and Urs' synths are too broad and general . . .
Gonga, Thanks for taking the time to respond. Much appreciated!
Although I understand the vastness and flexibility of the U-he line of synths I was merely asking in what timbre, sound, noise, tone, ring, etc does each shine. As wonderful as these synths are I dare to proclaim that girls are more wonderful, and even the most lovely girl has her strengths and weaknesses in looks (synths have sounds). Even if they are all perfect 10s, one might have luscious lips, while another might have seductive eyes.

I cannot accept that synths are equally exceptional at creating every conceivable sound. All I was hoping to hear was an opinion like, "ACE really makes remarkable punchy basses," or "Zebra2 has an amazing haunting timbre on pads that separate it from other synths," and "from what I've heard Diva has a super lush analog feel." Maybe I have lost my mind. I've in the house too long. I need to get out. I'm clearly losing my ability to communicate simple ideas and concepts. I think I'll wander the streets looking for Socrates . . . and I'm sorry to say . . . if I find that frustrating bald-headed, robe-wearing, scatter-brained little bugger I will beat him like a redheaded stepchild, and then run off into the desert screaming, "Can someone give me a straight answer for Heaven's Sake!"

I am grateful that Urs took the time to write a synopsis of each. Thank you!

I have already beat this question to death and I'm sure someone will kindheartedly remind me of this so I'll just say . . . Thank you. I wish everyone same exact inspiration with this new plugin that they had with all the others . . . not more, not less!

Fantastic job Urs. Best of luck with the upcoming release of Diva.

Zebra is great for some basses, ACE for others, and Bazille for others... The same can be said for pads and leads etc.

If you want to make evolving sounds, get Zebra cause it has the MSEG's and more sound sources. Likewise, if you want to make a wide range of plucked strings and especially realistic ones, get Zebra. The others don't have an arp, so get Zebra for that.

I think if you like fat, meaty bass, Diva is gonna be a monster. But that does not mean some people do not prefer different kinds of bass sounds.

Each synth is not equally capable of creating every conceivable sound. But how do you classify that? Just saying bass does not come close to the different types of bass sounds that different people like.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:03 am

I think the problem is that there isn't a one archetypal pad sound, or one 'platonic' bass sound. There are FM basses, analog basses with snappy filter envelopes, big moving digital basses, high midrage basses, sine waves (or triangle waves if you're me, because, well, it's a zig zag. And the extra harmonics help it 'pop'... but mainly the zig-zags).

With pads and lead there's probably even more range, because they generally cover a wider frequency range.

What you can do is say synth X has a good response in the low end, or has solid envelopes, or a good filter, or whatever. But these features aren't specific to synthesizing any one type of sound.

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:23 am

Thanks guys. I just wanted to hear a little of this sort of thing to help me and my ears understand the situation.

taoyoyo · Post by **taoyoyo** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:12 am

Gonga wrote:
taoyoyo wrote:
xend54 wrote:
taoyoyo wrote:Somehow I'm patiently waiting...
i have been here for hours
Hope you have a bucket handy for all that drool!
When this baby's born I hope there won't be arguments over who the real father is

Really though, I'm quite happy to just be its 'weird uncle'

jonahs · Post by **jonahs** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:30 am

Will there be a DIVAFY? I finally got into Zebra by way of Zebrify and I'm wondering if I should get that or if DIVA will be able to process external audio. Sorry if it's been asked! I'm reading backwards in the thread now.

I like the look of DIVA, but of course the real test will be to use it. It looks like the "problem" I had with Zebra is fixed. (the save button is close to the switch patch button and I'm a clumsy idiot)

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:28 am

Wow the demos sound really great!

I hope Justin makes a demo too

Cheers
Dennis

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:04 am

Here are two sounds I particularly like...
http://www.3amnoise.net/diva_demo_01.wav lush pad
http://www.3amnoise.net/diva_demo_02.wav weird filter modulations (watch your ears!)

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:10 am

justin3am wrote:Here are two sounds I particularly like...
http://www.3amnoise.net/diva_demo_01.wav lush pad
http://www.3amnoise.net/diva_demo_02.wav weird filter modulations (watch your ears!)

Especially the second sound is brilliant!

Cheers
Dennis

Kalee · Post by **Kalee** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:11 am

Will it

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:21 am

Couple simple sounds.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Diva-3.wav
http://draigathar.org/sounds/Diva-4.wav

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