Indeed. In reality everybody is going to share these extra presets, plus ask for help on the forum. And the dev is left with selling a handful of synths. Which would be a shame with a product that is creating such a hype.vurt wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:53 pmhe said one fee, not free.Dalle wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:33 pmWow. It already is free, which is incredibly generous. You can pay more for a few extra things, and to support the developer.dionenoid wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:22 pm Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.
Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.
hes not looking for a handout, hes telling the dev he could ask for more![]()
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- KVRAF
- 1841 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
The loudness war is over, loudness has won
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 28 Jan, 2013 from Oakland
Alright here's your one price: $80dionenoid wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:22 pm Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.
Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.
Everyone else can choose
On a serious note, I've thought about this a lot and the amount people spend on software varies wildly, some only will spend $5 here and there and other people buy $1000 pieces of software. I decided on a sliding scale because I want everyone to be able to use Vital. It may not be perfect, so just think of it as market research for my next plugin.
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- KVRist
- 428 posts since 21 Jun, 2015 from India
Well, you are preaching about how to price his product, which is arrogant. It is one thing to advise and completely different thing to preach. If you didn't mean it in that way then you may want to reframe your statement.dionenoid wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:10 pmWhat aggression ? The KISS principle is the nr. 1 rule in sales, and actually in music production too.Paree wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:47 pmSurely, you know better than a guy who spent 3+ years creating this right?dionenoid wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:22 pm Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.
Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.
Sometimes making money isn't the only thing that matters. The pricing is great, whats not great is your aggression.
Keep It Simple, Stupid = KISS.
As the dev pointed it out, he wants everyone to use his synth. At this point it's more about supporting the dev.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 28 Jan, 2013 from Oakland
- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
pough wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:30 pm Looks like someone associated this thread with Serum. Was that on purpose?
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- KVRist
- 414 posts since 21 Jan, 2007
Huge Fan, (check your DM's)
So far it looks like there's no support. That's a tad on the disappointing side. Every other software I use to make music provides support. It's vital in my working process, allow me to explain:
I start up an empty DAW* project with my favorite go-to synth, a bunch of plugins, and save it, and then with a little secret email tricks I get all the different developers to reply to each other until they inadvertently creae tracks, and at the end I sign my name to them.
So even if this plugin is free, gonna need support. Oh well.
(* Digital Audio Workstation)
So far it looks like there's no support. That's a tad on the disappointing side. Every other software I use to make music provides support. It's vital in my working process, allow me to explain:
I start up an empty DAW* project with my favorite go-to synth, a bunch of plugins, and save it, and then with a little secret email tricks I get all the different developers to reply to each other until they inadvertently creae tracks, and at the end I sign my name to them.
So even if this plugin is free, gonna need support. Oh well.
(* Digital Audio Workstation)
- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
there is support, even for the free oneoverhishead wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:18 pm Huge Fan, (check your DM's)
So far it looks like there's no support. That's a tad on the disappointing side. Every other software I use to make music provides support. It's vital in my working process, allow me to explain:
I start up an empty DAW* project with my favorite go-to synth, a bunch of plugins, and save it, and then with a little secret email tricks I get all the different developers to reply to each other until they inadvertently creae tracks, and at the end I sign my name to them.
So even if this plugin is free, gonna need support. Oh well.
(* Digital Audio Workstation)
payments give you extra, personal support, direct with the dev....
also, it's 2020, I think everyone knows what a DAW is
- KVRian
- 849 posts since 11 Mar, 2010
What?..overhishead wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:18 pm
I start up an empty DAW* project with my favorite go-to synth, a bunch of plugins, and save it, and then with a little secret email tricks I get all the different developers to reply to each other until they inadvertently creae tracks, and at the end I sign my name to them.
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- KVRist
- 428 posts since 21 Jun, 2015 from India
Well, there is no obligation. It is about supporting the development. At the end of the day, devs are humans, they need to have money to buy food as well. That is why i said if you can afford it.Vortifex wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:22 pmPersonally I feel no obligation to pay if a dev offers a free version. My view is that if they didn't want me to have it for free then they wouldn't offer it to me for free, and so I don't feel bad about not paying.Paree wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:47 pmWhen a developer is being so generous to give a complete synth for free, its only right for you to support the dev by purchasing the full version if you can afford it.
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 3 May, 2018
I like what I've seen and heard so far despite having resisted the Serum Sylenth flavors forever (mainly due to not needing them), however the offering seems solid and may be worth diving into.
Have you tried Vital?
