Zebra 3 and Zebra Legacy

[KayVeeArt]

have you emailed? they usually work all hours

least then it's also on their files you mailed pre time limit, which may or may not make a difference?

I haven't. I didn't realise they work all hours. I've read that their customer service is top notch so I'm optimistic. That's a good suggestion. Thank you.
...and I apologise if this is not the appropriate place for this... I'm stressing out just slightly.

wouldn't worry about it being the wrong place, other than its not as likely to get you sorted straightaway. email is more direct

After much frantic searching, I've found the correct way to communicate with NI and a ticket has been recorded. I'm new to forum etiquette, so please forgive my naivety and ineptitude. My middle-aged brain has never coped well with this new-fangled computer malarkey.
Thank you.

nothing to forgive
welcome aboard, it can be a weird place at times, but it's a nice, helpful place for the most part.

Thank you vurt.

[KayVeeArt]

Also, I'm confused about whether to reach out to u-he or Native Instruments.

Best to reach out to NI. We have no access to their sales data or anything.

Thank you Urs. I've already done so.

Coincidentally, I watched yesterday, so I acknowledge your status and am even more appreciative of your willingness to help this pleb.

[rACatkvr]

One tiny remark here: people who bought Zebra (and DZ) in last year’s NI bundle at similar low pricing DO get Zebra Legacy AND the upcoming Zebra 3 for free. So much for long time customer perks

12 months is a long time in the software industry

[gentleclockdivider]

I would love if zebra 3 has a 0hz phase mod ( read yamaha fm ) operator like bazille , it opens up so many doors .

[PieBerger]

Hello Everyone. I'm new here. I've just bought Hive 2 and Zebra Legacy.

This is a good way of entering the world of KVR, you will go far

[sl23]

One tiny remark here: people who bought Zebra (and DZ) in last year’s NI bundle at similar low pricing DO get Zebra Legacy AND the upcoming Zebra 3 for free. So much for long time customer perks

12 months is a long time in the software industry

Why? Is it like dog years?

[operator]

I would love if zebra 3 has a 0hz phase mod ( read yamaha fm ) operator like bazille , it opens up so many doors .

I must agree. I totally love how Bazille does it with the "Multiply" --> 0. Would love to get Bazille like FM-Oscillator-Controls in Zebra3 --> Overtones, Multiply, etc...

It also would be great if it would be possible to have the Osc-FX inside of the FM-Oscillator (like in Bazille you can also use the Fractalize function to further waveshape the signal), we could create an incredible crazy waveshaper when setting it to 0hz. (my mouth is watering harder than pavlov's dog right now)

Also, somehow it would be great if we could get the FM operation as an Osc-FX (like in Vital or Serum) so we could nest it anywhere inside of the serial 4-Osc-FX-Chain.
(thinking about that also brings me to the conclusion that with 4 OSC-FX it could somehow also make sense to think about some parallel routing options???).

[KayVeeArt]

Hello Everyone. I'm new here. I've just bought Hive 2 and Zebra Legacy. I've realised that I'd rather buy the U-he Collection 2 instead. Time is of the essence as the sale ends tomorrow. How do I go about refunding for these two purchases? How long does the process take? Am I too late?
Cheers for any help that you can give this panicking noob.

For any of you who give a shit about the plight of a noob, I've just bought u-he Collection 2 and I'm in the laborious process off installing it. Each time a new synth's license is accepted, I'm adding one of its presets into a particular Reason 12 (Suite) project of mine and I'm being blown away by the results. The inspiration is addictive. This is what it's all about!

[gentleclockdivider]

I would love if zebra 3 has a 0hz phase mod ( read yamaha fm ) operator like bazille , it opens up so many doors .

I must agree. I totally love how Bazille does it with the "Multiply" --> 0. Would love to get Bazille like FM-Oscillator-Controls in Zebra3 --> Overtones, Multiply, etc...

It also would be great if it would be possible to have the Osc-FX inside of the FM-Oscillator (like in Bazille you can also use the Fractalize function to further waveshape the signal), we could create an incredible crazy waveshaper when setting it to 0hz. (my mouth is watering harder than pavlov's dog right now)

Also, somehow it would be great if we could get the FM operation as an Osc-FX (like in Vital or Serum) so we could nest it anywhere inside of the serial 4-Osc-FX-Chain.
(thinking about that also brings me to the conclusion that with 4 OSC-FX it could somehow also make sense to think about some parallel routing options???).

There is already an FM operator as osc effect , it's called dx .
It's essentially a 1:1 ratio mod carrier configuration .
I use it all the time combined with the PD effect , it's awesome

[carrieres]

There is already an FM operator as osc effect , it's called dx .
It's essentially a 1:1 ratio mod carrier configuration .
I use it all the time combined with the PD effect , it's awesome

you can't change the ratio ?
is it not too limited ?

[gentleclockdivider]

There is already an FM operator as osc effect , it's called dx .
It's essentially a 1:1 ratio mod carrier configuration .
I use it all the time combined with the PD effect , it's awesome

you can't change the ratio ?
is it not too limited ?

No you can't change the ratio ,and yes it's limited but it's great as an additional 2nd osc effect with a tiny amount of modulation .
YOu can use DX in the first effect slot and set second slot to odd-even effect , this way you have a 2-1 ratio effect for a square wave ..like this
Just make sure resoltuion slider is set to max when modulating the dx effect

And nothing prevents youfrom usin this 2 op configuration within a single osc as a modulator for the true fm module .

First example is zebra using phase distortion , second is phase distortion +tiny bit of PD effect
Or use it with scrambler ( which is a one operator self feedback algo )
https://app.box.com/s/virasbuwgqkbmvsc4iv0dg7kr34o5096
https://app.box.com/s/uq2vn4i0trs2b139vs74i102r3979zpo

[carrieres]

Thanks a lot, if you know some presets with FM from the factory bank, let me know or post some presets example

[operator]

There is already an FM operator as osc effect , it's called dx .
It's essentially a 1:1 ratio mod carrier configuration .

What if you use SpectroBlend and only draw in the 8th harmonic --> that should be a 4:1 ratio (and so on...). The "underlying" sinewave which gets modulated/or is modulating is tuned at the Oscillator´s "fundamental" tuning, right? Therefore with the SpectroBlend you could "offset" the tuning of the main signal inside of the wave-cycle to a higher pitch.

[gentleclockdivider]

There is already an FM operator as osc effect , it's called dx .
It's essentially a 1:1 ratio mod carrier configuration .

What if you use SpectroBlend and only draw in the 8th harmonic --> that should be a 4:1 ratio (and so on...). The "underlying" sinewave which gets modulated/or is modulating is tuned at the Oscillator´s "fundamental" tuning, right? Therefore with the SpectroBlend you could "offset" the tuning of the main signal inside of the wave-cycle to a higher pitch.

Hey yea , you're right
I almost never use the spectroblend mode and wrongfully assumed t it would also affect the carrier but it doesn't .
In spectroblend mode +dx effect , the partials only affect the modulator
Set all harmonics to zero and you will still hear the carrier's fundamental , ace
Thanks for the tip , zebra still amazes after all these years

[operator]

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Despite all this, I would love to see an "FM from Osc2" or better "FM from Sidechain" as an Osc-FX. "FM from Sidechain" would be pretty neat --> this would open up a whole can of whoop ass.

BTW, I am asking for the Yamaha kind of FM --> I am talking about PhaseModulation (like the DX Osc-FX).
In MSoundFactory you have the possibilty of both with such kind of "complex" routings and I prefer PM over FM.