Why did you leave Studio One?

[chk071]

So, now in v6.6, even if I´ve paid for the full pro version, I won´t get all the functionality -- Presonus releases a new softsynth for the DAW and I still won´t get it if don´t subscribe.

The point is not if I really want/need that synth or not. The point is leaving the loyal pro-customers out in the cold.

I agree.

We'll have to wait and see what happens in the future.

I hope that people will vote with their wallet, and give the subscription a pass, but, I don't have my hopes very high in that regard, TBH. Democracy sucks sometimes.

It´s not democracy. More like order 6.6, if you catch that Star Wars reference.

I didn't but, I just Google'd.

I'm more for Star Trek than Star Wars.

[jens]

I hope that people will vote with their wallet, and give the subscription a pass, but, I don't have my hopes very high in that regard, TBH. Democracy sucks sometimes.

People simply don't like subscriptions for software - or at least not for productivity applications - Adobe is kind of an exception, because so many companies use them - plus they don't really have any competition.

In my family we have a couple of subscriptions, but almost exclusively for streaming- and cloud-services (Prime, Disney+ , Netflix, Spotify, Google Drive and stuff like that - okay, I admittedly have a Hitfilm subscription too, but that's just because Adobe was getting so expensive that it seemed very little in comparison ) - I would never ever subscribe to any music-making software - they can get lost.

[hebex]

I would never ever subscribe to any music-making software - they can get lost.

Exactly.

[eerie_audio]

Now a days all the mainstream DAWs are feature packed and a little bloated at this point. It's really not that hard to skip a few version number upgrades, because everything you need is already there. I'm not sure what they can add at this point that would be worthy of $129 upgrade. Unless they unveil a flagship synth or something, because I don't think even a clip launcher would tip the scale at this point.

[chk071]

People simply don't like subscriptions for software - or at least not for productivity applications

I don't know about that, there's many companies coming out with their subscription schemes now... and, obviously, they even sell, otherwise they'd all be put to rest after some time.

Especially the younger generation seems to have less of a problem with renting things (opposed to owning them).

I would never ever subscribe to any music-making software - they can get lost.

The way it is for me now (and the way I also did it with Studio One v4), I will keep v6.6, and won't upgrade to v7, and maybe even pass on v8 (always depending on what they will add, and whether that makes any difference to me). I'm not a power user, which completely rules out any kind of subscription for me, and also rules out upgrading every 2 years for 150 €...

I always thought that a major paid upgrade every 4 or 5 years is plenty. 2 years is extreme, and 1 year like on Cubase is bat shit crazy. But again, people buy, obviously...

Remember how it used to be, back in the days?

[hebex]

People simply don't like subscriptions for software - or at least not for productivity applications

Especially the younger generation seems to have less of a problem with renting things (opposed to owning them).

Yeah, the "you´ll own nothing and you´ll be happy"-agenda 2030 serf programming inbibed from kindergarten and on. Nightmarish.

[hebex]

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[THE INTRANCER]

okay, I admittedly have a Hitfilm subscription too, but that's just because Adobe was getting so expensive that it seemed very little in comparison ) - I would never ever subscribe to any music-making software - they can get lost.

Technically, Hitfilm is music making software because it supports multi-track audio just like Studio One does.

It does suck that Hitfilm Pro went subscription, there is the gimped free version though.
Someone gave me key a key when Hitfilm did a Humble Bundle giveaway of version Pro 15 years ago. It does make up for the After Effects student version I lost because Adobe shut down the servers for the CS2 suite.

I dare say that if that Studio One does have multi-track video, it will be enevitable that it could start to integrate visual effects along the way, even if this may be 5 to 10 years away. Perhaps something it's that could be integrated into the Show Page.

Ah the days of Music 2000 are comming back to me haha.

[BONES]

Did you check to see if all of the S1 addons including the new Lead Architect synth are available in your account for purchase? Their site is showing that addons are only available for plus subscribers.
https://shop.presonus.com/studio-one-add-ons/page/

As I explained, that would be to encourage NEW USERS to sign up to Pro+, not any attempt to disadvantage existing users or force them into paying for subscription.

as if intentionally lying on their website now makes it any better, that makes them even worse in my eyes. And yes, I was already aware of it, I even notified someone else about it in this thread.

How the f**k do you see this as "lying"? It's the perfect way to push new customers towards subscription without f**king over your existing customer base.

[jens]

How the f**k do you see this as "lying"?

I think they meant lying as in consciously stating something that is known to false -
I could of course be wrong though and they meant lying as in "lying in bed"...

[Kalamata Kid]

Studio One 6 is my main DAW. I also have been looking at Reaper, Mulab and FL Studio to replace S1. Now it is very likely I will leave S1. Most likely scenario is to move to Reaper with Mulab, FL Studio and Unify as plugins when needed. I was on the fence and in a sense Presonus got me off of it. Thank you Presonus.

[Blaster]

One would think Studio One is subscription only at this point with all the drama

And even then, if you cancel you still have a perpetual license and can use Studio One indefinitely.

For new users:
The subscription route is cheaper than buying a full-price perpetual license. Even at a discount price it will be a hard decision. After a year you can either take a break like Bitwig, renew or get an upgrade license to perpetual. These are good options to have.

For existing users:
When the next major version is released, you can decide if you upgrade for $149.99 or get a subscription for $164.95. You can decide if you get the cheaper upgrade, or you get to use the optional add-ons.
You can also still buy the add-ons, as of now, with 3rd party resellers like https://www.jrrshop.com/presonus.
The only thing you don't have, is a totally optional Synth instrument that doesn't add much for most people.

Of course things can (and probably will) change in the future. But nobody knows what's going to happen, but complaining right now about some perceived injustice is just ridiculous in my opinion.
What kind of disadvantage have existing users right now except not being able to buy the new synth?

[tuzemec]

Now a days all the mainstream DAWs are feature packed and a little bloated at this point. It's really not that hard to skip a few version number upgrades, because everything you need is already there. I'm not sure what they can add at this point that would be worthy of $129 upgrade. Unless they unveil a flagship synth or something, because I don't think even a clip launcher would tip the scale at this point.

I'm in this boat.
I seriously can't think of something more that I need. Even the upgrade to 6 wasn't that exciting and I did it only because it was on a sale.

And God forbid they start adding some AI branded shit...

[chk071]

One would think Studio One is subscription only at this point with all the drama

FWIW, it takes a lot more to get me off their fence/lawn.

I don't like this development, that's all. I see the signs, they're actually pretty much "in your face", with many of the major DAWs having subscription options, or even subscription only (Pro Tools). I hope we don't see subscription only for more DAWs in the future.

I'll be honest though: If Presonus ever decide to go full subscription, then I'll look for another DAW (maybe even a free one). Even if I can go on using my current version of it, I simply won't use a DAW which only has a subscription scheme, because I'm very likely to upgrade at some point.

[Crossinger]

For existing users:
When the next major version is released, you can decide if you upgrade for $149.99 or get a subscription for $164.95. You can decide if you get the cheaper upgrade, or you get to use the optional add-ons.

I'm only marginally interested in add-ons. But for perpetual updates it was quite affordable in the past: Usually I picked Black Friday offers for upgrades. That means: $99 max. for two years of free updates (that's roughly the usual release interval between two major versions). So 50 bucks/year - totally acceptable to me. Paying 3 times more for for an annual subscription is way less compelling.

EDIT: yes, I‘m aware I still can upgrade the perpetual way. We‘ll see what the future brings.