The KVR user reviews - what a great age this is! Only 10s!

[Sampleconstruct]

All 10 reviews currently displayed in the Reviews overview section have 10 out of 10

haha, but I still think that many people that do the reviews are doing them while the "gas" is fresh

That's probably very true, so folks should only be allowed to write reviews after having used a Plug in at least 10 finished tracks/productions then
But that would need a review police controlling that

[ghettosynth]

I guess that this all is a mater of what we define as "analog" sound. Back in 2004/2005 i had e.g. an Oberheim Matrix 1000 and a Roland MKS-50 and IMO both did not sound as "analog" as e.g. the Jupiter 8 and the Minimoog which i also had during that time (or the Moog Slim Phatty i got now). Still the question is: What defines an analog sound? I still have problems describing that myself.

Ingo

Certainly there is a variation in quality. Both the MKS-50 and the Matrix-1k are hybrid synths with DCOs. They both sound somewhat static. Neither has a stellar filter either. The Oby has a late CEM based filter and the MKS has Roland's IR-3R05 as is in the JX8 and JX10. While both synths are popular and have something of a following for their own reasons, neither is considered a benchmark of analog sound.

If you know of a VST that you think does a better emulation than Diva of the Roland Juno filter IR3109, or the Moog Ladder filter (practically any variant), then, by all means, tell me about it.

[Richard_Synapse]

i guess my point would be that 10 is perfect, and NOTHING is perfect

A rating that is never given is ihmo obsolete.

In practice, a 10/10 rating means that a plugin was subjectively great at the time the review was written. This aging could be taken into account, in that either old reviews are discarded (e.g. after 5-10 years) or their ratings automatically lowered. Some of our oldest discontinued plugins have 10/10 ratings, which makes no sense by today's standards.

Richard

[Sampleconstruct]

KVR should introduce a "mute"-button for the term Diva, pretty please

[hibidy]

All 10 reviews currently displayed in the Reviews overview section have 10 out of 10

haha, but I still think that many people that do the reviews are doing them while the "gas" is fresh

That's probably very true, so folks should only be allowed to write reviews after having used a Plug in at least 10 finished tracks/productions then
But that would need a review police controlling that

haha, not saying that at all. It's an observation, not saying there is anything wrong with it. Review away! I'm all for it.......besides......I relate

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

In practice, a 10/10 rating means that a plugin was subjectively great at the time the review was written

great is an 8, or an 8.5...great doesn't mean there's no room for improvement...10 means there's no room for improvement

[ariston]

In practice, a 10/10 rating means that a plugin was subjectively great at the time the review was written

great is an 8, or an 8.5...great doesn't mean there's no room for improvement...10 means there's no room for improvement

Kind of agree with Richard here... a scale loses its meaning if the top tier doesn't exist. A 10 should be reserved for those select few products at the top of their game at the time of writing the review. I'm sure the very first human that ate a raw egg gave it a 10, if only because he was likely so damn hungry, anything would have been a ten. By the time he'd discovered scrambled, poached and boiled eggs, that raw egg dropped down (or off?) the scale.

Just an opinion, of course; you could make a good case for reserving the 10 as an ideal that will never be reached. Makes me feel pessimistic and joyless, though.

[ariston]

Just read a few posts near the top... how the hell did the "real analogue" discussion get in here?


P.S. Diva Diva Diva

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

In practice, a 10/10 rating means that a plugin was subjectively great at the time the review was written

great is an 8, or an 8.5...great doesn't mean there's no room for improvement...10 means there's no room for improvement

Kind of agree with Richard here... a scale loses its meaning if the top tier doesn't exist. A 10 should be reserved for those select few products at the top of their game at the time of writing the review. I'm sure the very first human that ate a raw egg gave it a 10, if only because he was likely so damn hungry, anything would have been a ten. By the time he'd discovered scrambled, poached and boiled eggs, that raw egg dropped down (or off?) the scale.

Just an opinion, of course; you could make a good case for reserving the 10 as an ideal that will never be reached. Makes me feel pessimistic and joyless, though.

well, i thought diva was worthy of a 10 when i first used it, but i the colour of the gui (sorry) and the lack of arp made it less than perfect

you are right, though, i guess i can't have it both ways - if perfection is impossible, then nothing could be a 10...

how about nothing ever is a 10 then ?? we just bow to the IDEA of 10

[Sampleconstruct]

Just read a few posts near the top... how the hell did the "real analogue" discussion get in here?


P.S. Diva Diva Diva

MUTE

[ariston]

MUTE

Sorry... couldn't resist. Like a "Don't touch, fresh paint" sign.

[Sampleconstruct]

MUTE

Sorry... couldn't resist. Like a "Don't touch, fresh paint" sign.

LOL

[ghettosynth]

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[aciddose]

to my knowledge no other synthesizer on earth has the same filter saturation characteristic mine has. one other synthesizer has part of it - nexus2. it doesn't have the new features i've recently implemented.

"mid-range" is an odd characterization. it's possible you're used to pre-eq'd sounds. all the sounds i get out of xhip sound identical to what i get out of my analog gear. it's hard to pin-point the cause for a subjective thing like that. if the sounds genuinely had a peak in the mid-range that would be easy, but the fact is they're completely flat.

making a claim like you have, that a juno-60 can't produce anything bad is ridiculous at best. i've heard horrible sounds come from a juno-60. i own a sh-09 and a alpha-juno myself which are along a similar axis, although the sh-101 filter has has a much higher distortion than the discrete otas in the sh-09 and the filter in the alpha-juno is configured differently than in the juno-60 so couldn't come close even with identical components.

http://soundcloud.com/aciddose/isaidno

so, bad interface. that's a fine complaint. i find it difficult at first as well but i've never really cared for interfaces so i'm open to whatever anyone wants to do. branis did the one you're looking at although i replaced the controls with my own.

http://soundcloud.com/aciddose/ohnoes

can't you come up with any more direct technical attacks? that's the great stuff.

http://soundcloud.com/aciddose/atracne

a reviewer's inability to find technical faults just points to a fault with the reviewer in my opinion.

these clips? which one is diva? (to one familiar with presets it should be obvious)

[Integratron]

Who wants to review a mediocre plugin? Not me. Have fun with that.

"This plugin was literally so "OK" that I decided to study its function for the better part of this year so that I could have the chance to provide you lucky readers with this unabridged report on the subtle nuances of it's underwhelming operation."