Loving Satin!...but

[Sampleconstruct]

Can we finally give this threshed-to-death subject a rest?

/Joachim

But these endless debates are the main reason many folks come here, so Popcorn I say!

[djsubject]

Hasn't URS said by now at least 2 times (or more?) the next update will have a disable button? He listened and agreed 2 threads ago, no?

Which would have been handy to hear instead of long diatribes about how it isn't perceptible (not accusing you, but, just look at the replies I got instead)

First post on page 3. It may have got lost in the noise though.

Best hiss joke so far!

I like the hiss so im glad it will be a button not a different ratio to the current hiss dial!

This KvR world is full of passionate oppionions!

I shall be nominateing uhe for the nobel peace award!

PS. I love the osc reset option added to diva

Yours humbley

Subz

[DHR53]

KVR IS about the debate... But, I gotta hand it to Urs for maintaining his cool. He should be in politics.

[whyterabbyt]

Hasn't URS said by now at least 2 times (or more?) the next update will have a disable button? He listened and agreed 2 threads ago, no?

Which would have been handy to hear instead of long diatribes about how it isn't perceptible (not accusing you, but, just look at the replies I got instead)

That's a strange thing to say since you actuall cut and pasted a quote from Urs in which you selectively ignore the fact that the previous line was him saying exactly that, in order to suggest he was making a point which was the opposite of what he actually said.

So when he said

We'll add a button, and it'll create a bit more "silence" - quite literally -, but the majority of people who want a realistic tape simulation simply won't care. At all.

As for the question about a solo NR - click "Bypass Tape" and there's no hiss at all. Just EQ and compander. Which still at the price of Satin is a steal, compared to what the vintage hardware goes for on eBay

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(I guess you can see that I'm tired of the useless bickering after we already announced a "fix" in about every Satin thread known to man)

Your reply somehow missed two separate references to them fixing it in favour of

As for the question about a solo NR - click "Bypass Tape" and there's no hiss at all. Just EQ and compander. Which still at the price of Satin is a steal, compared to what the vintage hardware goes for on eBay.

The vintage hardware sits in a corner of my studio, unused. If I wanted what it did, I'd be using it. The plugin is much more convenient and far more cost effective from a cost per chargeable hour standpoint.

Is your point that you'd like me to pay you to make a version of the plug where you don't *ADD* the hiss? I think I'd be happy to, name your price and lets see what we can do

Maybe if you'd spent more time reading all of the posts you decided to reply to, you wouldnt be whining about things not being 'handy to hear'.

[Numanoid]

But these endless debates are the main reason many folks come here, so Popcorn I say!

But for new "viewers" just tuning in, what is the main beef going on here?

[Sampleconstruct]

But these endless debates are the main reason many folks come here, so Popcorn I say!

But for new "viewers", what is the main beef going on here?

This:

We finally have a new War: The Noise War (lasted until the first update of Satin where a switch was introduced, the noise-defenders then all sold their Satins in the Marketplace and used white noise generators instead).

[whyterabbyt]

We finally have a new War: The Noise War (lasted until the first update of Satin where a switch was introduced, the noise-defenders then all sold their Satins in the Marketplace and used white noise generators instead).

Digital random noise generators arent random enough. You need proper analog hardware random noise generators for teh true warm analogue hiss.

[Sampleconstruct]

We finally have a new War: The Noise War (lasted until the first update of Satin where a switch was introduced, the noise-defenders then all sold their Satins in the Marketplace and used white noise generators instead).

Digital random noise generators arent random enough. You need proper analog hardware random noise generators for teh true warm analogue hiss.

True that, but that is the next debate!

[thecontrolcentre]

Digital random noise generators arent random enough. You need proper analog hardware random noise generators for teh true warm analogue hiss.

I just use shitty cheap microphones. Hisstastic.

[KBSoundSmith]

We finally have a new War: The Noise War (lasted until the first update of Satin where a switch was introduced, the noise-defenders then all sold their Satins in the Marketplace and used white noise generators instead).

Digital random noise generators arent random enough. You need proper analog hardware random noise generators for teh true warm analogue hiss.

[chokehold]

Write to Coca Cola, tell 'em to put less bubbles in your Coke.

[pdxindy]

Hasn't URS said by now at least 2 times (or more?) the next update will have a disable button? He listened and agreed 2 threads ago, no?

Which would have been handy to hear instead of long diatribes about how it isn't perceptible (not accusing you, but, just look at the replies I got instead)

It is up to you to hear something... you did not respond to statements that the feature you want was going to be added and you did not respond to my attempts to find a solution for you by asking where you had asperity set. You could ignore the "diatribes" and focus on the posts seeking or offering solutions. Maybe not intentionally, but you did the opposite. And for all anyone here knows, your hiss level could have been a result of lack of knowledge of a new plug-in...

[deastman]

My other point is that we arrived at the conclusion that we might have to do a bit more hifi (no hiss) and a bit more lofi (more of such) a few days ago. So there's no need to let us know anymore and it also won't cost extra when we get to do it.

I'm glad to hear you're considering more lofi. I just can't seem to turn the hiss up loud enough. Here's hoping for tape speeds down to 0ips. Or -30ips! And simulated tape damage. Poor calibration of the whole tape path! Can you simulate it catching fire?

[hibidy]

All the anti-hiss people comments and scolding of anti-hiss are taking away from the hissers. If you have a sinus problem, take an antihisstomine.

[kmonkey]

Jesus Christ...being two days off KVR and i see these fine threads turned i to standard KVR bullcrap romantic shi**fest. Something which is highly unusual for any U-HE thread.

I feel sorry for devs. at u-he and want to say congratulation on being cool and gentleman..

Also i want to say - thank you guys for giving us super nice tape emulation. Using only one instance on master (as opposed to anti hiss 50000 satin channels) is making a big difference and plugin is quite literally justified for the price and copy protection alone.

Hiss is ok, no hiss ok. Can we agree that this cr** is finally over?