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Daniel Pompougnac · Post by **Daniel Pompougnac** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:49 pm

Bad english language

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Hello,
I want record an old guitar of mine. I don't want install a pickup and preamp into this guitar.
If you have ever pefectly

recorded a guitar with a micro, what was this micro ? (Shure, audiotechnica, etc...).
And the model (with the price of this micro) ?

Daniel

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IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:22 pm

"Perfect" recordings come more from the position of the mic, and the room, than from the mic itself.. not to mention the performance! The mic does play a part in the sound of course, but so does the pre-amp: you probably need to spend roughly the same amount on each.

Condensor mics are usually the best choice for acoustic instruments, and there is a lot of choice in the entry-level bracket these days.. what's your budget?

I can recommend SE Electronics though: I've got a Z5600A 9-pattern valve mic, which sounds great!

Ivan_C · Post by **Ivan_C** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:23 pm

The Sound on Sound's website is really great for everything :

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Aug01/a ... tr0801.asp

Rock · Post by **Rock** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:35 pm

if I were just recording a guitar... (not multitracking) I would want a stereo image of the guitar. What is your budget? Do you already have a good soundcard? If so what type inputs does it have?

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:37 pm

perfect mic for acoustic steel-string guitar: Schoeps with cardioid capsule - $1200-$1500 or so.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:14 pm

semiquaver wrote:perfect mic for acoustic steel-string guitar: Schoeps with cardioid capsule - $1200-$1500 or so.

Hmm. Not much point spending that kind of money unless you drop another few hundred on a pre-amp, and have a very good sounding room to record in..

chrismuktar · Post by **chrismuktar** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:05 am

I heard a mid and side setup for acoustic guitar works well, but never tried it myself. I usually use two shotgun condensors, which I place on the guitar by listening through the headphones and deciding where I like them. I usually also take the DI if there is any just in case.

When you get the tracks into the computer, correct for the phase difference manually by dragging the waveforms into phase (if that makes any sense).
Chris.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:55 am

Read this (4 pages), there is a lot of good info in there about different mic placement techniques:

http://www.harmony-central.com/Features ... ousticGtr/

freeztar · Post by **freeztar** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:57 am

Different guitars will sound different on different mics. If you can take your guitar somewhere and test the mics, that would help. But, as IIRs mentioned, you might get the mic home and it have a different sound.

I use an AT4040 when recording my Martin acoustics. For my classical, I use a Shure BG-1. For my amp, I use a Shure SM57 and the AT4040 (but sometimes the StudioProjects B-1). Post processing is also important. I use an EQ and compresser to get a fatter sound. The classic series one have acoustic guitars settings that are great starting points.

lharless · Post by **lharless** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:16 am

two omnis, a pre and a beautiful room. one mic at 12th fret, one at bridge for me.

experiment. read. buy the gear. get to work. have fun. make a trillion bucks. buy me a really nice tour bus to transform into a mobile.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:16 am

I just use a cheap small-diaphragm condenser with a hypercardioid pickup pattern.

Seems to do the trick.

$50 CDN as long as you already have a pre-amp that supplies phantom power.

I have a pair of them, but I prefer my guitars in mono, actually! Which is contrary to conventional wisdom, but I'm not conventionally wise, that's for sure.

Before that, I just used a PG58 (ie. cheap version of the Shure SM58) dynamic microphone and got mediocre but usable results.

Greg

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:53 am

avenson audio omnis (stapes omnis).. spaced pair close mic these to the guitar 6inches awesome sound.. there $500 a pair.. they look like smaller earthworks mics.. these sound great ....... my 2 pennies

P.T. · Post by **P.T.** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:36 am

If the guitar is just one of many instruments in the mix then one condencer mic placed near where the fretboard meets the body would work. Also try different mic placement for different sound. The placement will dramatically alter the sound.

If it is solo guitar or guitar and vocal you might want to go stereo. Use two mics. There is an inexpensive mxl package I think that has a large diaphram mic and a small diaphram mic. This is good as you can then use the large diaphram mic for vocals.

For stereo you could put one mic near the fretboard and the other near or below the soundhole. Then you can pan them in the mix. You will have to play around with placement to avoid phase cancelling problems.

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:12 am

Hi Daniel,

I play flamenco guitar, and my configuration (with a very small budget) is a Tascam US-122 with a MXL 990 micro (with T2, of course). Is not the best, but worth the price.

Hope it helps!

BR

Nacho

dry bones · Post by **dry bones** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:00 pm

IIRs wrote:I can recommend SE Electronics though: I've got a Z5600A 9-pattern valve mic, which sounds great!

I have an opportunity to acquire one of these at a price I can afford: a wise investment for all-purpose use?:)

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