KVR Audio

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:06 pm

I have a problem :
each time i want to use a paragraphic eq or a graphic vst eq plugin in Sony Sforge or Acid, the plugin auto-reset himself each tim i play the audio file from the beginning.
I have that problem using SLimSlowSlider linear eq, smartelectronix Nyquist, Firium....
It is boring !!
anybody knows how to avoid such a bug ?
thanx

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:15 pm

nobody cares ?
nobody knows ?
nobody wants ?

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:53 pm

or maybe nobody uses SF and Acid anymore ???

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:13 pm

As far as I can tell VST plugins always reset in Sound Forge. Odd, because they don't in Vegas.

ScarKord · Post by **ScarKord** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:27 pm

I think it's a problem with VST's in general. For example, if I use the built in patch selector on CamelSpace, Acid reset's it upon restart. If however, I select the same preset from the drop-down (at the top of the plug-in window, above the plug-in GUI) it remembers it.

There is a workaround though. When you have the settings as you want them, just save it as a preset - that appears to be the only way to keep the settings.

To confirm how you do this...

1. In the Preset drop-down, overwrite the (Untitled) text with whatever you want the settings to be called. e.g. 'My eq'
2. Click on the floppy disk icon, to the right of the drop-down.

Hope this helps!

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:28 pm

oh !
I'm astonished by what you say, as i contacted SOny's support, and they asked me to "re-install properly the software", as if it was anything known by them and as if I made the mistake... !
They really don't care with their customers !!
It's f__cking penible, as i use many vst plugins, and i love my vst eq way better than DX ones !!
I don't know how to fix the problem...
I thought sony's support would hav told me "yes, sometimes it happens, just disable a reset function in your preferences tab"... i was dreaming.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:31 pm

yep !
thanx a lot ScarKord, I'll try this (but this will make 15687687 presets in my vst folders if i only can do so !).
Glad you told me about that, i was thinking about buying camelphat3... ! (well, that sony's lack would not be a reason not to buy it anyway !)

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:32 pm

And i went to see how many Dx eq plugins were listed on KVR : only 20, and mainly very expnsive (nearly all above 150 $)...
i like so much my nyquist.. !

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:41 pm

ScarKord wrote:I think it's a problem with VST's in general. For example, if I use the built in patch selector on CamelSpace, Acid reset's it upon restart. If however, I select the same preset from the drop-down (at the top of the plug-in window, above the plug-in GUI) it remembers it.

There is a workaround though. When you have the settings as you want them, just save it as a preset - that appears to be the only way to keep the settings.

To confirm how you do this...

1. In the Preset drop-down, overwrite the (Untitled) text with whatever you want the settings to be called. e.g. 'My eq'
2. Click on the floppy disk icon, to the right of the drop-down.

Hope this helps!

I think it depends on the plug-in. My TC Compressor shows the presets up above, but the settings won't change on the interface, like there is a disconnect. So it initializes every time, nothing to be done.

Which is OK, I'm mostly a Wavelab man these days; takes too damn long to open plug-ins in Sound Forge. Takes too long to do everything in SF8 now.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:09 pm

sinkmusic wrote:nobody cares ?
nobody knows ?
nobody wants ?

What version are you using of each? Current Sound Forge is 8.0a and Acid Pro is 5.0c. I'm not too thrilled with how either one manages plug-ins, and have had numerous correspondence with Sony Media tech support about this. Both applications are very good at many things, but not with plug-ins.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:02 pm

eduardo_b wrote:
sinkmusic wrote:nobody cares ?
nobody knows ?
nobody wants ?
What version are you using of each? Current Sound Forge is 8.0a and Acid Pro is 5.0c. I'm not too thrilled with how either one manages plug-ins, and have had numerous correspondence with Sony Media tech support about this. Both applications are very good at many things, but not with plug-ins.

Agreed. I hate this "hit the green button, open Plug-in Manager, hit another green button, wait ten seconds, choose from a huge list" method. I just tend to load up the "FX Favourites" menu and use it old-school destructive. I doubt I'll be using SF much longer. Either that or I'll go back to SF6 or one of the faster versions.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:22 pm

bduffy wrote:I hate this "hit the green button, open Plug-in Manager...

At least in Sound Forge you can set the default and alternate plug-in folders, although this doesn't seem to reliably update Plug-in Manager -- why I don't know. In Acid Pro, it's hard-coded for Vstplugins (not in the registry like Sound Forge), and if it finds a plug it doesn't like, it simply locks up the app (worst in 5.0 but not much better in 5.0a, b or c). And both programs seem ridiculously fussy about plug-ins. They both refuse to recognize some dll files as valid even though Chainer, Mini-host, energyXT and others have no problems with the same ones. I actually had to uninstall Acid Pro and go back to Acid Studio 5.0a to get rid of the plug-in problem, and now I see that the latest version of Acid Studio (6.0) accepts plug-ins. Unless it uses better code, I'll stick with what I have now.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:48 pm

eduardo_b wrote:
bduffy wrote:I hate this "hit the green button, open Plug-in Manager...
At least in Sound Forge you can set the default and alternate plug-in folders, although this doesn't seem to reliably update Plug-in Manager -- why I don't know. In Acid Pro, it's hard-coded for Vstplugins (not in the registry like Sound Forge), and if it finds a plug it doesn't like, it simply locks up the app (worst in 5.0 but not much better in 5.0a, b or c). And both programs seem ridiculously fussy about plug-ins. They both refuse to recognize some dll files as valid even though Chainer, Mini-host, energyXT and others have no problems with the same ones. I actually had to uninstall Acid Pro and go back to Acid Studio 5.0a to get rid of the plug-in problem, and now I see that the latest version of Acid Studio (6.0) accepts plug-ins. Unless it uses better code, I'll stick with what I have now.

Definitely; ACID is just horrible with VST plugs! I uninstalled ACID 4 and tried to go back to ACID 3 (which I liked better anyway), but it knocked out all the default Sony Vegas Track plugins with Sonic Foundry ones. So now, I don't even have ACID installed. Which I think at this point I'm OK with.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:10 am

The only way i can have acid running stable with vst is using the microsoft sound mapper instead of my rock-solid m-audio ozone asio drivers...
but i like acid loop functions too much !
and i like vst plugins too much too... !

G-Ro124 · Post by **G-Ro124** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:19 am

i actually like ACID a lot, even tough I'm switching to FL

The problem for you seems to be that your plugin in SoundForge goes back to the beginning? Interesting, I have SF8 and it never happened. I use Waves, iZotope, and T-RackS. Try reinstalling your EQ... I don't know though, but you're right, Sony Media Support does suck my 16 inch schlong

resetting equaliser vst plugins in Sound Forge & Acid