Hi all,
I'm trying out Tracktion again after trying at when v1 was being given away free and I didn't like it too much then, but thought I'd give T2 a more serious going over.
One thing I do a lot of is audio editing (copying a few bars from one part of a sone to another to replace a mistake etc.
When I put splits in place to mark out the section I want to copy and then copy and paste it I have Snap turn on so that when I paste it it will be in time with the rest of the bits either side.
What I then usually need to do is turn off snap and manually adjust the ends of the pasted section so that the point at which the pasted section starts and finishes does not create an audible click or pop.
With other recording apps I've used this is fairly simple to do as you just zoom in a lot and then visually see where you can make them meet at 0.
With Tracktion the problem I'm having is that when you select one of the clips, the height of the wav changes because the black bar gets placed at the top of the selected clip and therefore you can't visually see if the 2 clips are lining up nicely or not...
If I select both clips either side of the cut if I drag the beginning of the right hand clip it also drags the start of the left hand one as well which I don't want to do!
Is there a way to stop the black bar being displayed?
I'm probably missing something really simple but at the moment it seems like a bit of guessing and trial and error to get nice edits...
thanks,
Rich
Editing audio tracks - am I missing somehting?
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
Rich,
I don't think you have anything wrong. Tracktion will give you the option, if you have overlapping clips, to crossfade them - which solves the click issue. It sounds like you are trying to align zero crossings and/or slopes of the end of the previous clip with the beginning of the next clip.
To be honest, I've never really had to do this. If I split a clip at a non-zero crossing, I just apply a tiny bit of fade in/out.
-Scott
I don't think you have anything wrong. Tracktion will give you the option, if you have overlapping clips, to crossfade them - which solves the click issue. It sounds like you are trying to align zero crossings and/or slopes of the end of the previous clip with the beginning of the next clip.
To be honest, I've never really had to do this. If I split a clip at a non-zero crossing, I just apply a tiny bit of fade in/out.
-Scott
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 237 posts since 12 Jan, 2005 from Sydney - Australia
OK.
Yes I'm trying to get it so that the 2 clips meet at a "nice" point so that you can't tell it was edited.
I haven't used cross fades for this in the past. I've just manually adjusted the cut point. The few cross fades I did try sounded a bit funny as the audio changes in intensity across the fade... This wasn't with Tracktion though... so I might try cross fading out when I get home and see if it is acceptable.
Still... would be nice to be able to see the clips as a uniform height wave form rather than the funny skip in height when one clip is selected and one not...
thanks for the response
Rich
Yes I'm trying to get it so that the 2 clips meet at a "nice" point so that you can't tell it was edited.
I haven't used cross fades for this in the past. I've just manually adjusted the cut point. The few cross fades I did try sounded a bit funny as the audio changes in intensity across the fade... This wasn't with Tracktion though... so I might try cross fading out when I get home and see if it is acceptable.
Still... would be nice to be able to see the clips as a uniform height wave form rather than the funny skip in height when one clip is selected and one not...
thanks for the response
Rich
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
It WOULD be nice to have them a uniform height. It's a feature request a few of us put forward from time to time. But even with the waveforms at uniform height, I will still continue to always auto cross-fade for the kind of editing you're describing.
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 10 Mar, 2005
I work on recorded audio. I'd also prefer the wave forms same height. I crossfade every splice because there is nothing that says the inserted part fits exactly.
T can do what I want, but there is a lot to improve in audio editing. It would be nice if one could...
- grab the splice (crossfades intact) and drag the splice back and forth in time to just the right place.
- easily alter the width of a splice/crossfade in one operation rather than the sequence [move left of right clip, move right of left clip, click crossfade button, select how to crossfade from popup].
- lock or join the splice to make the two clips into one joined clip.
- do this on multiple tracks at once.
-- perhaps on a submix represented as Finder fold-down triangles ( tree-view for the Windows people ) where there was a generated clip as the union of all contained clips. This clip should be a real clip capable of all the things other clips are.
T can do what I want, but there is a lot to improve in audio editing. It would be nice if one could...
- grab the splice (crossfades intact) and drag the splice back and forth in time to just the right place.
- easily alter the width of a splice/crossfade in one operation rather than the sequence [move left of right clip, move right of left clip, click crossfade button, select how to crossfade from popup].
- lock or join the splice to make the two clips into one joined clip.
- do this on multiple tracks at once.
-- perhaps on a submix represented as Finder fold-down triangles ( tree-view for the Windows people ) where there was a generated clip as the union of all contained clips. This clip should be a real clip capable of all the things other clips are.