Can Receptor do midi mapping?

[timyork]

Can Receptor do midi mapping?

Like in Logic I can use the mapped instrument to map midi notes outputting from my controller to different midi notes and/or midi channels.

Is Receptor able to do this when working stand alone?

[Briggity]

Each channel in Receptor has MIDI Filter that control the following parameters:
-Listen Channel (1-16 or ALL)
-Play Channel (1-16 or THRU)
-Note Range
-Velocity Range
-Transpose

[timyork]

Midi mapping is the ability to redirect incoming midi notes to other midi notes and/or midi channels.

For example:

I play C1/midi channel 1 which is mapped to F#1/midi channel 8

Is Receptor able to do this?

[DanTimis]

As Brigitty said you can listen to one channel, map to another, and transpose. If you set listen to channel 1, map to channel 8, and transpose 5 semitones up, then C1/channel 1 becomes F#1/channel 8.

But, C#1/channel 1 will become G1/channel 8. You cannot map each note with a different rule. Also when you listen to channel 1 and map to channel 8, all channels other than 1 are ignored.

However, you can use a different mapping on each of Receptor's 16 channels, so you can have another channel listen to MIDI channel 2, map to MIDI channel 9, transpose 2 semitones down, and ignore all notes bellow C2 and above C5.

[timyork]

Thanks for the response, Dan Timis.

But, C#1/channel 1 will become G1/channel 8. You cannot map each note with a different rule. Also when you listen to channel 1 and map to channel 8, all channels other than 1 are ignored.

I'm not sure I get this. What does 'listen' mean in Receptor speak?

I do get the concept with transpose, though.

Would it be possible to include a proper midi mapper in Receptor, Dan? It's incredibly useful when using V Drums with EXS24 in Logic, because without it one is limited to 64 kits that the V Drums are able to store (each with different midi notes set for each drum). With midi mapping the available kits are unlimited - I can send each drum to the note of my choice in any instrument I have at my disposal. Very cool. I know I'd be able to do this if I have Reecptor running within Logic, but to be able to do this with Receptor running stand alone...wonderful!

Tim

[oGG]

While this thread is hot, might I add another useful feature request; You all talk about "listen to one channel and map to another". But that is "listen to one channel and map to another *plugin* channel". I'd be very nice to be able to do this but to map to another hardware midi channel (think outside the box, or in throu and out at least ). That is; be able to select raw MIDI as source and not a plugin. And make the MIDI filter thingy avalible anyway and add a strip with "Play Hardware MIDI Channel" or something. I made a similar request in the "Improvement and Wishes" thread.


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Olle Gustafsson

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[DanTimis]

I'm not sure I get this. What does 'listen' mean in Receptor speak?

A Receptor channel receives all 16 MIDI channels. Then, it 'listen' to only one MIDI channel, meaning that it will ignore all other MIDI channels. If it listens to MIDI channel 7, all MIDI events on MIDI channel 7 will go through, while the rest of MIDI events will be ignored.

A Receptor channel can 'listen' to only one MIDI channel or to "ALL" MIDI channels.

[Bryan@MuseResearch]

While this thread is hot, might I add another useful feature request; You all talk about "listen to one channel and map to another". But that is "listen to one channel and map to another *plugin* channel". I'd be very nice to be able to do this but to map to another hardware midi channel (think outside the box, or in throu and out at least ;)). That is; be able to select raw MIDI as source and not a plugin. And make the MIDI filter thingy avalible anyway and add a strip with "Play Hardware MIDI Channel" or something. I made a similar request in the "Improvement and Wishes" thread.


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Olle Gustafsson

Hi Olle

Aside: the dark forests of Sweden sounds pretty intriguing. Hope to get there some day.

I am interested in what you are saying here, but I'm having a hard time understanding exactly _why_ this feature would be beneficial. Could you provide a couple of real world problems that this would solve? I'm really interested to know what problem you are trying to solve.

All the best

Bryan

[Robert Karasek]

For all who are in this MIDI-thing: check that concept of MIDITEMP products!
Bryan - have a look at it and ....well... "steal" some of the features
(I can send a manual to you or deliver further information if needed.. I'm working daily with it in studio and on stage)
Rob

[Tim York]

For all who are in this MIDI-thing: check that concept of MIDITEMP products! Very Happy
Bryan - have a look at it and ....well... "steal" some of the features Wink
(I can send a manual to you or deliver further information if needed.. I'm working daily with it in studio and on stage)

Rob,

Thanks for the heads up on the MIDITEMP products.

I couldn't see anything in the product specs that indicated these products were able to map individual notes to other notes. Can any of the MIDITEMP products do this? They appear to have 'transpose,' as does Receptor. But my original question, and original reason for starting this thread was to find out if Receptor was able to map individual notes to other notes (not transpose the lot in one go).

Logic can do this with its mapped instrument. It can also map individual note's midi channels to other midi channels. But I'd like to have the option of using Receptor stand alone with my V Drums.

For electronic drummers, 'true' midi mapping, as I'm describing, would be a very helpful feature, beacause you aren't then limited to the number of presets the in the electronic kit.

[oGG]

While this thread is hot, might I add another useful feature request; You all talk about "listen to one channel and map to another". But that is "listen to one channel and map to another *plugin* channel". I'd be very nice to be able to do this but to map to another hardware MIDI channel (think outside the box, or in throu and out at least ). That is; be able to select raw MIDI as source and not a plugin. And make the MIDI filter thingy avalible anyway and add a strip with "Play Hardware MIDI Channel" or something. I made a similar request in the "Improvement and Wishes" thread.


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Olle Gustafsson

Hi Olle

Aside: the dark forests of Sweden sounds pretty intriguing. Hope to get there some day.

I am interested in what you are saying here, but I'm having a hard time understanding exactly _why_ this feature would be beneficial. Could you provide a couple of real world problems that this would solve? I'm really interested to know what problem you are trying to solve.

All the best

Bryan

Allright:

I use a Yamaha S90 as a master controller. It's a nice board and has it's abilities to act as a master keyboard (f.eg. send msb/lsb program changes on up to 4 individual MIDI channels).

I also have, apart from the Receptor, an old Korg Triton Rack module, a Roland Fantom XR and a pretty new Alesis Fusion 6HD. All these have multitimbral modes (the Triton has two of these, MULTI and COMBI, and the Fusion has MIX). Anyway. There's no way to change to or from these modes by sending only MSB/LSB messages (except on the Fantom). The only way to achieve this is to use SysEx; which none of my current keyboards can do (except when playing back MIDI files in "sequencing mode").

Here's where it would be nice to have the ability to store SysEx data in a MULTI and send it whenever I select the Receptor's MULTI using my S90. This way I could reprogram my whole setup using SysEx data (which with a bit of fiddling could include not just changing patches but also altering effects and such in these patches) with only one press of a button on my master keyboard.

This is of course doable using a sequencer; by playing back recorded SysExdata in a MIDI file. But, then I'd have to be in "sequencer" mode on my keyboards which limits things. Plus, I can't select SONG mode on the Alesis for instance by sending MSB/LSB/PgmChange messages from the S90 (a dosen more button puches not to mention the time spent to prepare all MIDI files).

The filter feature on the other hand would be nice to apply to hardware channels as well as software ones. F.eg. play the Receptor when you fondle your keys and play the Fantom when you bang 'em.



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Olle Gustafsson

[PhilAiken]

I couldn't see anything in the product specs that indicated these products were able to map individual notes to other notes. Can any of the MIDITEMP products do this? They appear to have 'transpose,' as does Receptor. But my original question, and original reason for starting this thread was to find out if Receptor was able to map individual notes to other notes (not transpose the lot in one go).
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Tim,
I believe that MIDI TEMP will do this.
I use a much more inexpensive box, the Midi Soultions Event Processor Plus, which will readily do this for you.
-Phil

[gregh1]

the ability to store SysEx data in a MULTI and send it whenever I select the Receptor's MULTI

Perhaps there are VSTs that can store SysEx and emit it when they are instantiated?
Then, the Receptor software would need to be modified to allow MIDI-only VSTs - which is a MUST-HAVE feature in any case, right guys? (For instance, that would allow us to use a pitch-to-MIDI VST and feed its MIDI to a VSTi or send it out of Receptor's MIDI out port.)