KVR Audio

Atomic Marshmallow · Post by **Atomic Marshmallow** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:48 pm

Hello,

As the title says I hope these following questions won't be too dumb and my apologies if they have been addressed elsewhere. Here we go:

1) As far as I understand, Kore will also allow me to use other VST software apart from the Native Instruments stuff. So if I have Tassman 4.0 (or any other VST) and used up all my limited number of authorisation codes, can I still use it within Kore? How will that work if I have used up my allotted Authorisation codes. Actually the same for the Native Stuff. I have komplete 3 and it is installed on 2 computers. A desktop and laptop, so I have used up my allotted authorisation. Will I also be allowed to use Komplete 3 in Kore and both my laptop and desktop?

2) Can I use it without a computer so for example in a live gig situation, so all I need to use is Kore and a midi keyboard without a computer?

3) I am primarily a guitarist, so assuming question 2 is possible, can I plug my guitar into the back of the Kore unit to play Guitar Rig 2 in a live situation?

I did have some other questions, but I have forgotten them.

But let me say that if all of the above are possible then I will be first in line to get Kore!!!!

Thanks in advance for your response(s)

ugo · Post by **ugo** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:24 pm

1) you should be fine. kore runs on your existing computers and the authorization codes are only per system/install, not per host. so as far as i can tell, it will just be like running your plugins in a new host, not a new system.

2) no, its just a software host so you'll still need a computer to run it on. the hardware part of kore is just for the knobs and audio/midi in out.

3) while i dont know for sure, i would assume so. since its got an audio input on the back of the hardware, i would guess that you could plug a guitar into it and run the audio via usb into your computer, where kore and guitar rig would be running.

-ugo

mckenic · Post by **mckenic** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:42 pm

Hi Atomic Marshmallow!!!

As far as I understand Kore - which is a limited understanding - I believe you are misunderstanding what Kore is...

1) An audio interface
2) A hardware controller / knob box
3) A database for PATCHES... the plug-in will STILL be opened and hosted on your computer - kore will just allow you to browse patches for your synths (NI & third party) albeit in a funky metatagged superfast way!!!

HTH

Dave

lowercase · Post by **lowercase** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:58 pm

mckenic wrote: 3) A database for PATCHES... the plug-in will STILL be opened and hosted on your computer - kore will just allow you to browse patches for your synths (NI & third party) albeit in a funky metatagged superfast way!!!

The plugin is actually run in Kore (the software end of it), and not directly in the host. It's like a plug-in chainer type thing.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:11 pm

lowercase wrote:
mckenic wrote: 3) A database for PATCHES... the plug-in will STILL be opened and hosted on your computer - kore will just allow you to browse patches for your synths (NI & third party) albeit in a funky metatagged superfast way!!!
The plugin is actually run in Kore (the software end of it), and not directly in the host. It's like a plug-in chainer type thing.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. From what I can tell, all Kore saves internally is preset information, but that's about as cool as it gets to me..... Too bad though, it would definitely be a contender against Receptor if it hosted VST/AU/DX/RTAS plugs internally.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:13 pm

Also, let's face it, it would definitely cost a lot more than the $500 street price if it hosted plugs internally.

mckenic · Post by **mckenic** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:17 pm

It would indeed be sweet if Kore took some of the cpu strain away from your machine - I dont believe it will do this but would be VERY happy to be proved wrong... If NI made it a kinda receptor box I'd JUMP all over this!!!

Again my knowledge is sketchy and NIs publicity is just confusing me more & more - as a K2 owner I may well get it for the free K3 upgrade tho

Dave

Post by **Ben [KVR]** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:19 pm

Kore, the software, hosts plugins (and can be a plugin itself). "Kore Controller" is a hardware MIDI controller and USB audio interface; it does not host plug-ins or have any DSP power.

ew · Post by ew » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:24 pm

Ben beat me to it...

ew

ugo · Post by **ugo** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:24 pm

from the compatibility info at the NI site:

KORE itself can either be used stand-alone or as a plug-in within all professional sequencers via RTAS, Audio Units, VST or DXi. This guarantees that your sounds are compatible with virtually any system.

the kore hardware doesnt host anything, its just an interface. however the software itself is a host, not just a database. it can run stand-alone or as a plugin...and when it runs as a plugin, you still load other plugins into it.

edit: ben beat me too.

-ugo

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:15 pm

What I'm curious about is if it has any ability to host presets even? It's all pretty vague about that. Easy transfers aside, is there even 64mb of memory in Kore to hold preset and Kore database information? Otherwise it's all about ethernet and other methods of preset transfer..
The way it's advertised leeds me to believe there is a bit of memory in Korre itself to hold preset patches, and Kore channel strip configurations, otherwise it's not as elegant for sure.

ew · Post by ew » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:24 pm

machinesworking wrote:What I'm curious about is if it has any ability to host presets even? It's all pretty vague about that. Easy transfers aside, is there even 64mb of memory in Kore to hold preset and Kore database information? Otherwise it's all about ethernet and other methods of preset transfer..
The way it's advertised leeds me to believe there is a bit of memory in Korre itself to hold preset patches, and Kore channel strip configurations, otherwise it's not as elegant for sure.

Please READ through all the above statements. Kore itself is a PROGRAM that runs on your computer- the controller is a control surface with an audio/MIDI interface. For transferring between systems, it's ethernet or removable media.

ew

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:42 pm

ew wrote:Please READ through all the above statements. Kore itself is a PROGRAM that runs on your computer- the controller is a control surface with an audio/MIDI interface. For transferring between systems, it's ethernet or removable media.
ew

ew are you on the beta team? Do you have access to information that I don't? All I know is that the details of Kore data transfer between computers is "seamless" according to NI advertising, it's all I can go by. If you are privy to information about the inner workings of Kore, then sure, I guess CAPITALS almost makes sense, but I am not aware of any connection between you and NI, other than as an end user? So I take your information at face value. If you will notice I also stated that Kore hardware is not a plug in host, but I don't see why it would be any stretch of the imagination to hope that Ni would have the foresight to use the hardware as a way to store preset information, considering the tiny size of such information..... and the "seamless" nature of transferring plug in presets that way...

Ethernet or removable media data transfers between mac/PC/laptops etc. is NOT what I would call seamless....... The main function of Kore that I was interested in was as a way to transfer presets etc. between mac, PC, and laptop without using other means....

ew · Post by ew » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:49 pm

I'm one of the Kore forum moderators. Does that answer your question?

ew

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:23 am

Yup, thanks.

Wish all that was easy to spot, knew you designed some Reactor synths, and that's about it....

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