I have tried setting the voice allocation as high as 256, but still when holding the sustain paedal and playing arpeggios or any cascade of notes with the pedal doen,, very quickly i run out of voices, and it does not just turn off the oldest or softest notes, like a good hardware synth will do - it stops ALLnotes until I release the sus pedal.
Is there any way to change these characteristics, or maximize the note allocation - or is there a piano with a different player host that avoids this issue?
Piano, Kompakt/Kontakt and Receptor - not enough notes
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Silicon Valley
Hi Dasher,
You might wish to provide a little more info (eg HW config, DFD settings, which Piano models, etc.). I recall seeing <a href="http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9">this</a> previous thread, where muse was commenting on optimal DFD settings. Other people have talked about "reducing" their piano models (eg using 16 bit samples, going mono, etc) to increase playability.
For me, I was tired of trying to make Kontakt work for me, and I loved Ivory's sound and DFD algorithms. For Piano, I don't use anything else now.
Regards,
Kevin L.
You might wish to provide a little more info (eg HW config, DFD settings, which Piano models, etc.). I recall seeing <a href="http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9">this</a> previous thread, where muse was commenting on optimal DFD settings. Other people have talked about "reducing" their piano models (eg using 16 bit samples, going mono, etc) to increase playability.
For me, I was tired of trying to make Kontakt work for me, and I loved Ivory's sound and DFD algorithms. For Piano, I don't use anything else now.
Regards,
Kevin L.
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- KVRist
- 387 posts since 24 Aug, 2004
Ivory is the way to go.
But if you are using Kontakt II, try using some of the available scripts for self-masking, and also for sustain resonance (as opposed to using the pedal down sample sets)
I think if you search hear, you'll find some links. Also...I think self masking is one of the scripts that Kontakt II ships with. (This prevents notes from counting multiple times against your polyphony when struck repeatedly)
But if you are using Kontakt II, try using some of the available scripts for self-masking, and also for sustain resonance (as opposed to using the pedal down sample sets)
I think if you search hear, you'll find some links. Also...I think self masking is one of the scripts that Kontakt II ships with. (This prevents notes from counting multiple times against your polyphony when struck repeatedly)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
Thanks for the link. DFD was turned o - I tried different basic settings, then the settings in the link, but it still wasn't really right.
Eventually, I turned DFD off and it resolved the not-enough-notes issue for Silver and JABB, but even with 2G of RAM, I can't load Virtual grand into any of my stups. No problem atthe moment, as I won't be using those pianos live, but still...
Eventually, I turned DFD off and it resolved the not-enough-notes issue for Silver and JABB, but even with 2G of RAM, I can't load Virtual grand into any of my stups. No problem atthe moment, as I won't be using those pianos live, but still...
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 22 Dec, 2005
Sounds like a note stealing issue. Try this: In Kompakt Under Options:DFD settings:Expert: you have to raise the reserved voices to 248 then set the polyphony (in the main GUI window) below 248 for note stealing to work properly. I found that, for playing live, 64 polyphony was more than enough. Hope that helps.
(V7-I)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
So basically, more reserved voices than polyphony count? makes sense, I'll try that with Virtual Grand, the others are working fine with DFD off, so I'll leave it for now. Thanks for the tip.