KVR Audio

kroe · Post by **kroe** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:43 am

So someone knows a good granular efx?

something like sknote Grainz, but with real-time input?

thanks in adivce.

ps. i loved sknote grainz, but i really need real-time input.

PTV · Post by **PTV** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:18 am

KTGranulator
http://www.koen.smartelectronix.com/KTGranulator/
GGrain
http://www.gvst.co.uk/ggrain.htm
ParticleCloud
http://www.martin-brinkmann.de/plugs.html

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:24 am

The king of all granular plugins is probably Crusher-X Studio. After that there are quite a lot of interesting granular toys built for/with Reaktor, and several in Cycling74's 'Pluggo' package.

The other option would be AudioMulch and some kind of audio loopback system (like Elevayta StreamBoy, a soundcard with flexible routing, or somesuch). Seemingly there's some sort of VST bridge for Chaosynth in develoment as well.

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:37 pm

crusherX-Live has a little more flexibility than crusherX-Studio, but lacks the tempo sync. Both are a little pricey but do things that lesser granulators don't. Overall Live is better vfm, as it's slightly less expensive and has some extras under the hood. Runs as a VST via bridge. Combined with multichannel output it's instant brain damage.

Reaktor is always a good bet, plus it does a lot more.

Audio Mulch has excellent native granulators - the KT Granulator by Koen Tanghe is based on the AM DLGranulator contraption.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:13 pm

the best, as mentioned are CrusherX Studio (IMO way to expensive) Audiomulch contraptions (not VST) and Heizenbox (pretty cheap and does an amazing job)

http://www.heizenbox.com/

Reaktors granular facilities never cut it for me......Fruityloops Granulizer is great but no realtime input..

kroe · Post by **kroe** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:49 pm

Do Reaktor comes with granular essembles?

If not, where can i found that essembles??

i'll give a try to the plugins mentioned here,

About pluggo, all native plugins of pluggo are "unloadable"... (yes i already have installed the runtime). I build the vst of the first pluggo tutorial and it's was loadable... but the natives, don't.

thanks a lot

anything else?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:38 pm

kroe wrote:Do Reaktor comes with granular essembles?

If not, where can i found that essembles??

In the Reaktor library.

About pluggo, all native plugins of pluggo are "unloadable"... (yes i already have installed the runtime). I build the vst of the first pluggo tutorial and it's was loadable... but the natives, don't.

None of the pluggo plugins are native. What version of Pluggo are you using, and what version of MAX/MSP did you use to build the first tutorial?

kroe · Post by **kroe** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:59 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:None of the pluggo plugins are native. What version of Pluggo are you using, and what version of MAX/MSP did you use to build the first tutorial?

Sorry for the "native", i would like to mean "the plugins that comes with pluggo" (i.e. Stutterer, Shuffler, Raindrops).

i already posted a topic on cycling forums, but get no response yet. (link here)

My versions are:

Max/MSP 4.5.5
Pluggo 3.5

thanks a lot.

(sorry for the poor english).

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:11 pm

kroe wrote: Sorry for the "native", i would like to mean "the plugins that comes with pluggo" (i.e. Stutterer, Shuffler, Raindrops).

Hmm, they're working fine on a couple of machines here. Although if you've installed the full Pluggo, you dont need the runtime. Is this Windows or the Mac? (shulda asked that earlier, really)

My versions are:

Max/MSP 4.5.5
Pluggo 3.5

I'd start by pulling down the 3.5.4 version of Pluggo and the 4.5.7 version of MAX/MSP...

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kroe · Post by **kroe** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:52 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
kroe wrote: Sorry for the "native", i would like to mean "the plugins that comes with pluggo" (i.e. Stutterer, Shuffler, Raindrops).
Hmm, they're working fine on a couple of machines here. Although if you've installed the full Pluggo, you dont need the runtime. Is this Windows or the Mac? (shulda asked that earlier, really)

My versions are:

Max/MSP 4.5.5
Pluggo 3.5

I'd start by pulling down the 3.5.4 version of Pluggo and the 4.5.7 version of MAX/MSP...

I'm @ windowns xp sp2.

i don't know if my pluggo is the 3.5.4, but i'll check it...
and sure, i need to update my max.

about the runtime, i know..
if i installed the full pluggo, i don't need to install the runtime again...

but when the things go wrong, u try all that u imagine hehehe

thanks for the help.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:00 pm

kroe wrote: I'm @ windowns xp sp2.

Same here, but Ive got it working fine on two different systems. Dont now what to suggest more than that, sorry...

kroe · Post by **kroe** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:47 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
kroe wrote: I'm @ windowns xp sp2.
Same here, but Ive got it working fine on two different systems. Dont now what to suggest more than that, sorry...

what's your sequencer ?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:12 pm

kroe wrote: what's your sequencer ?

Ive been using them in EnergyXT, mostly.

Real time granular plugin (vst, windows)