live 5
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- 5350 posts since 8 Aug, 2003 from Berlin Germany
Just to write or to produce market, sell, etc?
Not including marketing...
Live was developed over several years (est. 1999) with a team of developers all on salary. Then you have a project manager for every 10 developers or so, and some .5 testers for each developer, all on salary. The also pay a configuration manger, and probably a seperate web developer (web is nessicary to track bugs in beta phases). Also I think they pay liceneces for time stretching and MP3 technologies.
That's a lot of money (the average salary for a software engineer in Berlin is > $50,000, and Ableton says they have over 50 developers).
Not including marketing...
Live was developed over several years (est. 1999) with a team of developers all on salary. Then you have a project manager for every 10 developers or so, and some .5 testers for each developer, all on salary. The also pay a configuration manger, and probably a seperate web developer (web is nessicary to track bugs in beta phases). Also I think they pay liceneces for time stretching and MP3 technologies.
That's a lot of money (the average salary for a software engineer in Berlin is > $50,000, and Ableton says they have over 50 developers).
Could it be done cheaper? Yes. Could it be done faster. Yes. Could it be done both? Probably a little now that much of the hard work (Requirements, R&D) has been done by Ableton, but really probably not much faster or much cheaper unless they are a poorly run company and I would never say that about them.Who: Ableton is about fifty software developers, business people and product specialists. The company is run by Gerhard Behles (CEO) and Bernd Roggendorf (CTO), its original founders, and Jan Bohl (COO/CFO). Most Abletons are active in music production, performance or DJing.
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- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
Don't forget business overheads, office space, business rates, utilities, tax, marketing costs, manufacturing costs, third-party licenses (the timestretching algorythms are not developd by Ableton, but licensed, I believe, along with some other stuff I'm sure)...
Once you look at the budget sheet, in all I wouldn't be surprised if the to-date costs of developing Live 5 are certainly in the hundreds of thousands, possibly more.
Wow, wonder what that would be like for Logic or Cubase, both of which are about 15 years old now...
Once you look at the budget sheet, in all I wouldn't be surprised if the to-date costs of developing Live 5 are certainly in the hundreds of thousands, possibly more.
Wow, wonder what that would be like for Logic or Cubase, both of which are about 15 years old now...
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- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
It's in the millions, easily.beej wrote: Once you look at the budget sheet, in all I wouldn't be surprised if the to-date costs of developing Live 5 are certainly in the hundreds of thousands, possibly more.