new compressor from Urs?

[politcat]

from another thread:

...which will start shortly after embarrassing the competition in terms of analogue filter modeling, delay, reverbration and dynamics processing.

what are you thinking of here?

[beej]

Urs mentioned this on a thread over at the BBL, he has an internal beta of his compressor, which is supposed to be a kinda next-generation Blockfish although with a different sound character.

We'll have to wait and see I guess...

[politcat]

internal beta...i own zebra, does that mean i can test it?

[Kingston]

whoha! more info!



now!

[Urs]

It's not even a beta. It's not related to fishphones (strictly u-he code, no line copied from Sascha), but it is supposed to be doing anything that any fish-thing can do.

Release date: The more you want to know, the less I can enjoy my vacation, the longer it'll take

Now off to discover Great Ocean Road...

[liars&ashes]

----I've been trying to hint to Markus there at Tone2, about making a multifx based around the concept of a compressor as an effect, like way more so than just as a standard signal compressor ya know. Not that you'd want to take it that direction, but if ya did, you've got my interest for sure.

Jeff

[K-Slash]

I hope that the GUI will looks like a hardware unit. I know that coming from Urs the sound quality will be top-notch, but I don't like the GUI coming from "space" for an effect unit like that.

For a synth like Zebra2 okay, but for a compressor, no way .

[original flipper]

HI

The idea of a compressor that is more like an 'effect' is something I have rambled on about before - quite simply a 'super sucktion/pumping' that some analogue hardware could achieve has not been touched upon in software ... yet.

I don't care what or how it is acomplished but I would love a compressor/effect that gives a really exagerated sucking/pumping effect (this is starting to sound a bit carnal?).

You know, you look at the electronics of some vintage stuff and I am sure that often a certain 'character' was probably achieved through a 'mistake' - connecting the wrong resistor or something - but the 'effect' was pleasing (to some).

I am no coder, but I am sure you could (as an example) delay and/or reverse the output of an inputed signal to create a quasi-pump effect?

Flipper.

[Kingston]

The idea of a compressor that is more like an 'effect' is something I have rambled on about before - quite simply a 'super sucktion/pumping' that some analogue hardware could achieve has not been touched upon in software ... yet.

There's no such problem with digital compression. It's a test of skill level really, ie. how to make teh pleasing analog sounding super crush pump. No digital compressor will prevent you doing that.

Anyone who says otherwise just shows a lack of experience. In fact, digital compressors have long a go surpassed analog in flexibility and you in fact have *more* variety of achieving all kinds of superduper pump with plugins. No piece of analog equipment will magically up your skill level and make it any easier to achieve what you wish. (well, high end reel to reel tape does, but that's a subject of another topic)

The only place where there's catching up to do in terms of analog vs. digital compression, is in high end mastering (+5k equipment), and exactly none of those are suited to pumping effects anyway.

You know, you look at the electronics of some vintage stuff and I am sure that often a certain 'character' was probably achieved through a 'mistake' - connecting the wrong resistor or something - but the 'effect' was pleasing (to some).

pretty much most of whatever BLACKVOODOO magic people may think analog equipment causes can be directly correlated to placebo and/or gullibility of believing marketing speak.

[Chris Walton]

I'm using only BLOCKFISH these days and if you come up with something that can do what it does but better, then I'm all for it.

and you're still welcome to talk to me anytime ... eek that was under a different nick though (I think ctmg) ... i dont even know if you remember ... ich bin komplett durcheinander

[beej]

pretty much most of whatever BLACKVOODOO magic people may think analog equipment causes can be directly correlated to placebo and/or gullibility of believing marketing speak.

...and the effect of having large, shiny, heavy, smooth, expensive, metal knobs to manipulate.
Someone needs to come up with the concept of "heavy" software. It worked in the hifi world, so who knows...

It's related to the old "how sweet is the eject mechanism on this casette deck" thing in the days of yore...

[Kingston]

...and the effect of having large, shiny, heavy, smooth, expensive, metal knobs to manipulate.

you just gave me a golden idea for my planned plugin release on 1.april.2007.

[beej]

One Knob Only?

[Urs]

can do what it does but better

Not better, just different. Actually rather subtle at reasonable settings, which you can make less subtle by pushing the edge. Can already be used to get 11.

For those who love pumping effects: It's not gonna be for you, sorry... too many good songs have been compressed to death/jam, no need to contribute to this kind of delusion. But if a great vocal can be made jump-in-your-face, yep, that's probably worth it!

[bmanic]

Well, I actually agree with original flipper. The extreme end of compression has not been done properly in digital yet. If you guys can show me a compressor that can squeeze things as extremely as the Distressor can and the Elysia Alpha compressor (which is mainly meant for mastering but because it is so clean and fast you can basically compress things so hard that they sound like they play backwards.. this is impossible with the current crop of plugins, afaik).

.. now if these kinds of compression are usable in a musical context is a completely different topic..

- bManic