KVR Audio

mike@manike · Post by **mike@manike** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:37 pm

hbasm wrote:
Each to his own! In this case, however, the sole purpose of the plugin is to widen the stereo image - not to add something to the sound. The idea is that a trumpet is still a trumpet, it just takes up more space in the stereo field. This plugin can "almost" do that, unlike a typical chorus effect that is supposed to turn one trumpet into 10 trumpets or a typical echo, which changes the musical meaning of your music (melodies don't always lend themselves to being echoed).

As a sound-engineer I've also found that music, since its made up of complex sound, benefits from sounding simpler, when played through a mono source. In other words, music benefits from less chorus, less reverb, when played in mono. It makes everything clearer and easier for the listener. I use phase-cancellation as a tool to improve the sound. To accomodate people who listen in "mono like" enviroments while giving other people the satisfaction of fat stereo.

But would the affected voice (or whatever) not become quieter when played from the mono source?

hbasm · Post by **hbasm** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:24 pm

ermi wrote:Could you re-name the controls according to their function? (Instead of Stereoizer-Knob, Stereoizer-Slider)

Oops, yes I will do that - probably tomorrow. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Mike-t3 wrote:But would the affected voice (or whatever) not become quieter when played from the mono source?

Only if you drag the MIX fader below middle. When you go beyond 90 degrees the sound will become quieter when played from a mono source. At 180 degrees, it'll be totally gone. That's how I implemented the fader.

mike@manike · Post by **mike@manike** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:35 pm

You cant say a plug is mono compatible if it negatively affects the sound when played back on a mono system.

I appreciate the plug is free, but for a plug that is mostly likely to be put on a vocal you cant have a plug that will not sound equal on a mono system.. eg a club.

hbasm · Post by **hbasm** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:50 pm

That's true, Mike-t3. On the GUI is written "mono compatible" at the upper part of the MIX fader. On the lower part is written "phase cancellation" so I don't claim its mono compatible all the way down. The green area is safe. The more it turns red, the more you have to be careful.

adl · Post by **adl** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:22 pm

yammmi! a new version of Stereoizer tomorrow

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:02 am

This is nice

mike@manike · Post by **mike@manike** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:11 am

cool ok

Mambo Zombie · Post by **Mambo Zombie** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:49 am

hbasm wrote:It works by adding a phase-inverted, slightly delayed, discrete chorus to the dry signal.

You mean like this:

hbasm · Post by **hbasm** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:09 pm

LOL, something like that

skank · Post by **skank** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:23 am

Mambo Zombie wrote:
hbasm wrote:It works by adding a phase-inverted, slightly delayed, discrete chorus to the dry signal.
You mean like this:

This is a very sad sight for all Arsenal fans.

Now back to to topic...

hbasm · Post by **hbasm** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:38 pm

Okay guys, the stereoizer is updated to version 1.1

New feature: Help button.
New feature: Numerical read-out's on the knobs when you dial them.
New feature: MIX Fader snaps to mid position.
Fixed: Bad parameter names visible to the host.
Plus minor GUI changes.

Please let me know if there are any problems.

Regards,
Hbasm

adl · Post by **adl** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:50 pm

Great! Thanx mate!!!

ermi · Post by **ermi** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:53 pm

Cheers! Works good so far...

PeterL · Post by **PeterL** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:23 am

v1.1 crashes WaveLab6 when moving the LFO knobs.
v1.0 worked fine in WaveLab6.

hbasm · Post by **hbasm** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:19 am

Sorry about that, Peter. It would be nice if I could download a demo version of WaveLab6 to track down the bug. It seems however that no demo is available. I can revert the code back to the old knobs. Maybe that will solve the problem.

If the stereoizer crashes for anyone else, using other apps, please let me know.

Free stereoizer for you all - mono compatible