I'm wanting to make a patch that gives me a full 4 OP FM matrix synth (in the style of FM8, Rhino, Sytrus, etc..), and I'm not totally sure it's doable?
(Sometimes "Wireless" is a bad thing?)
So, it would go like:
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Meaning that you would have to have like 16 mixers in configurations that Zebra does not like.
Has anyone played with making a patch like this?
I know there are 4 operators already there, but I was wondering about this kind of setup...
4 OP FM Synth?
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
The Z2 paradigm is totally different from FM7/8, and I don't quite see the point of trying to impose such a rigid architecture on Z2.Meaning that you would have to have like 16 mixers in configurations that Zebra does not like. Has anyone played with making a patch like this?
Zebra can handle up to 8-op FM, and all kinds of hybrids. Here's just one example "algorithm" showing the kind of flexibility you can't get from simple FM matrices (click on the image):
... and send these 4 channels to different FX, if you like.
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- u-he
- 30213 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Howard, it's 10 operator, as the XMFs can be used as oscillators... and as it's stereo, one could argue that it's 20 operators, within the limits of detuning/panning stereo sides 
@kodama - the relatively new style FM that I think came first in Rhino is only doable in dedicated environments, but not in a multi-purpose modular synth. The Grid in Zebra may look similar, but it serves quite a different purpose. This may be a downside for some, but IMHO the sonic results of multi-feedback from all points within a matrix are *not* that musically useful at all.
Thus in Zebra you can only create classic linear FM layouts.
Urs
@kodama - the relatively new style FM that I think came first in Rhino is only doable in dedicated environments, but not in a multi-purpose modular synth. The Grid in Zebra may look similar, but it serves quite a different purpose. This may be a downside for some, but IMHO the sonic results of multi-feedback from all points within a matrix are *not* that musically useful at all.
Thus in Zebra you can only create classic linear FM layouts.
Urs-
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Urs, it's 14 operator, as noises and combs can be mixed in as modulators.... and as these are stereo, one could argue that it's 28 operators etc etc..Urs wrote:Howard, it's 10 operator, as the XMFs can be used as oscillators... and as it's stereo, one could argue that it's 20 operators, within the limits of detuning/panning stereo sides
I agree with that. Only for DSP of course - feedback loops in modular transistor synths can be amazing. You can't do that in software.the sonic results of multi-feedback from all points within a matrix are *not* that musically useful at all.