Hello, everybody.
I was recording a guitar line with mulab 1.1, thought "great take" and hit the space bar to stop recording, and then mulab just quit without any previous prompt or anything. Happened twice tonight, but when it happened by the second time I was ready, the first time I just lost the take and few more I had recorded before the last one.
Working on a dual core, 2Gb RAM, Windows XP SP2, running Line6 GuitarPort software when the bug happened but not recording through it.
Best.
Bug report
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from france
Hello,
Mulab is very pleasant so I go on exploring it (free version 1.1).
I have found some bugs so I report them here, in case they have not been reported yet :
1) when I am on the Racks window and press TAB, it toggles to the Modular Plugin Area but then I loose the size and position I have given to the Racks window, and the Composition window is affected too if I have resized it before.
If I use the menu to select "Show Composer only" it also loose the size and position I have given to this window when I was in "Composer and Racks" mode.
If I use TAB when I am on the Composition window, all is right : no change in size and position.
2) I create a sequence on track 5 of composition B, select this sequence and copy it. When I paste it in the composition A, the sequence doesn't appear because composition A has 4 tracks only. If I create a new track in composition A, now the sequence I've pasted appears. I think that Mulab must add the tracks automaticaly.
3) I put a MuSynth in a rack slot and choose a preset. When I put the mouse over the slot, a tooltip appears with the name of the preset. Great. But now, I choose another preset for the MuSynth. When I put the mouse over the slot, the tooltip still shows the name of the ancient preset.
4) When I rename a Send slot, the slot doesn't show the new name and the tooltip doesn't show it too, it's always the old name.
5) In the Plugin Modular Area, I click on a plugin and have a message "Nothing to edit". Now I go to another plugin that have something to edit and it always say "Nothing to edit". If I toggles to Racks view, I have the message when I click on any slot. I have to close and reopen Mulab to be safe. Well, I can't always reproduce this but it happens !
6) I have also taken a look at the deep editor in MuSynth and Mux and sometimes I don't know why, I have no more sound because of an CPU overload, I have to click on the Overload message to restore the sound. Well, here too, I can't always reproduce it.
Voilà, that's all for the moment...
Mulab is very pleasant so I go on exploring it (free version 1.1).
I have found some bugs so I report them here, in case they have not been reported yet :
1) when I am on the Racks window and press TAB, it toggles to the Modular Plugin Area but then I loose the size and position I have given to the Racks window, and the Composition window is affected too if I have resized it before.
If I use the menu to select "Show Composer only" it also loose the size and position I have given to this window when I was in "Composer and Racks" mode.
If I use TAB when I am on the Composition window, all is right : no change in size and position.
2) I create a sequence on track 5 of composition B, select this sequence and copy it. When I paste it in the composition A, the sequence doesn't appear because composition A has 4 tracks only. If I create a new track in composition A, now the sequence I've pasted appears. I think that Mulab must add the tracks automaticaly.
3) I put a MuSynth in a rack slot and choose a preset. When I put the mouse over the slot, a tooltip appears with the name of the preset. Great. But now, I choose another preset for the MuSynth. When I put the mouse over the slot, the tooltip still shows the name of the ancient preset.
4) When I rename a Send slot, the slot doesn't show the new name and the tooltip doesn't show it too, it's always the old name.
5) In the Plugin Modular Area, I click on a plugin and have a message "Nothing to edit". Now I go to another plugin that have something to edit and it always say "Nothing to edit". If I toggles to Racks view, I have the message when I click on any slot. I have to close and reopen Mulab to be safe. Well, I can't always reproduce this but it happens !
6) I have also taken a look at the deep editor in MuSynth and Mux and sometimes I don't know why, I have no more sound because of an CPU overload, I have to click on the Overload message to restore the sound. Well, here too, I can't always reproduce it.
Voilà, that's all for the moment...
PQ
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
This is not a bug but a feature.pquenin wrote:Hello,
Mulab is very pleasant so I go on exploring it (free version 1.1).
I have found some bugs so I report them here, in case they have not been reported yet :
1) when I am on the Racks window and press TAB, it toggles to the Modular Plugin Area but then I loose the size and position I have given to the Racks window, and the Composition window is affected too if I have resized it before.
If I use the menu to select "Show Composer only" it also loose the size and position I have given to this window when I was in "Composer and Racks" mode.
If I use TAB when I am on the Composition window, all is right : no change in size and position.
In fact there are 3 'views':
Composer Only
Composer + Racks
Composer + MPA
Each of these 3 views memorizes the position + size of the windows.
So if you press TAB to switch to the MPA, and then press TAB again to switch to the Racks, then the windows should be at their original position again.
Hope i explained well.
You're right on this.2) I create a sequence on track 5 of composition B, select this sequence and copy it. When I paste it in the composition A, the sequence doesn't appear because composition A has 4 tracks only. If I create a new track in composition A, now the sequence I've pasted appears. I think that Mulab must add the tracks automaticaly.
Will be fixed in the next version.
True.3) I put a MuSynth in a rack slot and choose a preset. When I put the mouse over the slot, a tooltip appears with the name of the preset. Great. But now, I choose another preset for the MuSynth. When I put the mouse over the slot, the tooltip still shows the name of the ancient preset.
Will be fixed in the next version.
True; this is the same bug as in 3) though.4) When I rename a Send slot, the slot doesn't show the new name and the tooltip doesn't show it too, it's always the old name.
=> Fixed in the next version.
You mean when doing "Embed Editor", right?5) In the Plugin Modular Area, I click on a plugin and have a message "Nothing to edit". Now I go to another plugin that have something to edit and it always say "Nothing to edit". If I toggles to Racks view, I have the message when I click on any slot. I have to close and reopen Mulab to be safe. Well, I can't always reproduce this but it happens !
Yes, that's a known issue which is already fixed in the hot lab version here.
There should be a "Known Issues" page on the website. Will do!
Please let me know if you could find a repeatable pattern in it.6) I have also taken a look at the deep editor in MuSynth and Mux and sometimes I don't know why, I have no more sound because of an CPU overload, I have to click on the Overload message to restore the sound. Well, here too, I can't always reproduce it.
Thanks!Voilà, that's all for the moment...
Well, by properly spotting and reporting these bugs, you certainly also won your MU.LAB Unlimited User License!
Email me your name and address and i'll send you your license
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from france
Great ! Nice to see that bug reports are taken into consideration.
And of course thank you for the license, you're a nice guy !
I have notice 2 other things that are not bugs but are feature requests :
a) I can't change the order of the racks in the racks window.
b) when I export to midi file a composition with several tracks, when I import this file, the tracks have no name. Maybe it can be a good thing to give tracks the name of the first sequence found on them. So when you import the midi file, the tracks have significant names.
And of course thank you for the license, you're a nice guy !
I have notice 2 other things that are not bugs but are feature requests :
a) I can't change the order of the racks in the racks window.
b) when I export to midi file a composition with several tracks, when I import this file, the tracks have no name. Maybe it can be a good thing to give tracks the name of the first sequence found on them. So when you import the midi file, the tracks have significant names.
PQ
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
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- KVRAF
- 5167 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
Hi can you please look into my Mulab post when you have the time Jo 
Link: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2968061
Link: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2968061
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
License sentpquenin wrote:Great ! Nice to see that bug reports are taken into consideration.
And of course thank you for the license, you're a nice guy !
Is on the whishlist.I have notice 2 other things that are not bugs but are feature requests :
a) I can't change the order of the racks in the racks window.
MU.LAB does write the track names into the MIDI file. (track name)b) when I export to midi file a composition with several tracks, when I import this file, the tracks have no name. Maybe it can be a good thing to give tracks the name of the first sequence found on them. So when you import the midi file, the tracks have significant names.
And it also writes the name of the first sequence into the MIDI file. (sequence name)
And so if you save a MIDI file from MU.LAB, and reload it, then everything is neatly preserved.
Not sure if you know, but if you want to name tracks in MU.LAB, drag the track header splitter a bit more to the right, so you see the tracks names
By default this splitter is positioned so that you only see the track mutes, because this way the composer has more editing room, and because naming tracks is not regarded as essential i.e. more optional as you can already name each part.
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from france
Ok, I've missed that...Not sure if you know, but if you want to name tracks in MU.LAB, drag the track header splitter a bit more to the right, so you see the tracks names
PQ
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from france
I have tried to rename the tracks and the sequences and save to midi file.And so if you save a MIDI file from MU.LAB, and reload it, then everything is neatly preserved.
When I import this midi file in a new session, the tracks and sequences names are lost.
I've tried to open this midi file in others host (traction and reason) but with the same result...
PQ
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
I'm sorry man, also here i mismatched versions.
It all will be OK in the next version, but indeed MU.LAB 1.1 is not yet doing this.
It all will be OK in the next version, but indeed MU.LAB 1.1 is not yet doing this.
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Jo, you're piling a tonne into that next version; no wonder it's going to be beta'd...
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
Yes, it seems to becoming a BIG update... 
And as quite some things have changed/added internally too, beta testing will certainly be necessary!
And fun
And as quite some things have changed/added internally too, beta testing will certainly be necessary!
And fun
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from france
Hello, so here I am once more...
I want to report a new bug.
Well, it's not an application bug, but a documentation bug.
In the index.html file of the doc, the href are local references (fine...).
But in other html files, they are web references.
An exemple : in tt_qa.html, the links to the composer, audiolab, racks and skin sdk are not local href : they don't work if you don't have an internet connexion.
Plus : the link to the skin sdk is not a valid URL.
Now just a question :
why is the pan control on a rack is not assignable to a midi CC ?
And last but not least : if you are searching for beta-testers, I will be happy to help...
I want to report a new bug.
Well, it's not an application bug, but a documentation bug.
In the index.html file of the doc, the href are local references (fine...).
But in other html files, they are web references.
An exemple : in tt_qa.html, the links to the composer, audiolab, racks and skin sdk are not local href : they don't work if you don't have an internet connexion.
Plus : the link to the skin sdk is not a valid URL.
Now just a question :
why is the pan control on a rack is not assignable to a midi CC ?
And last but not least : if you are searching for beta-testers, I will be happy to help...
PQ
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
free software at : http://pquenin.free.fr/pqnaudio
free music at : http://www.soundclick.com/thepqueninproject
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
OK, fixed in the next release. Thanks for reporting!pquenin wrote:Hello, so here I am once more...
I want to report a new bug.
Well, it's not an application bug, but a documentation bug.
In the index.html file of the doc, the href are local references (fine...).
But in other html files, they are web references.
An exemple : in tt_qa.html, the links to the composer, audiolab, racks and skin sdk are not local href : they don't work if you don't have an internet connexion.
Also fixed in the next release.Plus : the link to the skin sdk is not a valid URL.
Will be automatable in the next versionNow just a question :
why is the pan control on a rack is not assignable to a midi CC ?
Please send me an email and i'll add you to the group.And last but not least : if you are searching for beta-testers, I will be happy to help...
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 24 May, 2002
Euh, to be correct: It IS automatable in MU.LAB 1.1.muzycian wrote:Will be automatable in the next versionpquenin wrote:why is the pan control on a rack is not assignable to a midi CC ?
And you CAN also assign a MIDI controller to a rack panner, but to do this, you have to make a little detour:
* right-click the volume slider
* choose "Assign MIDI Controller"
* now choose the other parameter "Stereo Panning" or "Stereo Width"
In the next MU.LAB, the rack panner will have it's own context menu, so you don't have to make the little detour via the volume slider anymore