traktor dj on receptor?

[messiahwannabe]

i see you guys support a lot of native instruments stuff - so when is traktor dj pro going to be added to the list?

i'd buy, like, 6 of these if you got that sorted. literally.

-mw

ps. what about other dj programs? though since i'm already running traktor that's the one i REALLY want to see implemented

[projektio]

i see you guys support a lot of native instruments stuff - so when is traktor dj pro going to be added to the list?

i'd buy, like, 6 of these if you got that sorted. literally.

-mw

ps. what about other dj programs? though since i'm already running traktor that's the one i REALLY want to see implemented

Call me crazy, but I think you might be better off looking at a great laptop for doing DJing. I have plenty of friends who use Finalscratch or Rane for doing live mixing / remixing in clubs, at raves, etc. You could go either PC or Mac and find this to be a much better option than the Receptor.

Not trying to pigeon-hole the Receptor, but it's primary function is running virtual synths, processing guitars or doing vocal effects. I don't think it would be your best option for running DJing software.

Additionally, the sheer size and bulk of the Receptor compared to an ultra-thin, ultra-lightweight and portable laptop, would drive me nuts if I had to lug it around...

My two cents.

projektio

[messiahwannabe]

Call me crazy, but I think you might be better off looking at a great laptop for doing DJing. I have plenty of friends who use Finalscratch or Rane for doing live mixing / remixing in clubs, at raves, etc. You could go either PC or Mac and find this to be a much better option than the Receptor.

i see what you're saying, but i have my reasons for prefering to use receptor if possible (i'm currently using a laptop fwiw) so i'm hoping someone has some information on this!

i wonder if this sort of thinkng is gonna keep traktor from getting developed on this box?

[projektio]

Call me crazy, but I think you might be better off looking at a great laptop for doing DJing. I have plenty of friends who use Finalscratch or Rane for doing live mixing / remixing in clubs, at raves, etc. You could go either PC or Mac and find this to be a much better option than the Receptor.

i see what you're saying, but i have my reasons for prefering to use receptor if possible (i'm currently using a laptop fwiw) so i'm hoping someone has some information on this!

i wonder if this sort of thinkng is gonna keep traktor from getting developed on this box?

For the sake of discussion, what advantages do you see for being able to run Traktor on the Receptor? Do you think it is better than a tricked-out laptop? You might have some good ideas as to why Traktor should be made available on the Receptor, so what are they? This would be a great place for you to cause a buzz...

As for my opinion, or anyone else, being a reason for Muse to not work on getting Traktor onto the Receptor, I don't carry that much weight. But seriously, I think there are TONS of other VST programs that are going to be their main priorities for awhile.

Cheers!

projektio

[messiahwannabe]

For the sake of discussion, what advantages do you see for being able to run Traktor on the Receptor? Do you think it is better than a tricked-out laptop? You might have some good ideas as to why Traktor should be made available on the Receptor, so what are they? This would be a great place for you to cause a buzz...

ok - for what it's worth, i'm getting a lot of work putting together bands at 5 star resorts in southeast asia. my angle is that i put together a band playing genre x (i work in several styles) but with a dj instead of a drummer. in the beginning, i was THE dj, but after a while i got so much work, and my band was so in demand, and other projects started coming my way, that i started to hire other dj's to play my beats behind several projects. and at this point, while i trust the handful of dj's i work with, if i continue expanding i'm gonna have to start working with whoever is available. and all one of these dj's has to do is walk off with my cd booklet, and. voila, they can do what i do, at least with 30-50 beats or so. then they can, for a while at least, work off of my efforts, undercut me on bids, etc. trust me, in southeast asia this is a plausible scenario.

so what i'd like to do is load up all these beats onto a receptor, maybe with some synths/presets and maybe even a live virtual mixing board (perhaps even with some virtual security on the receptor? is that possible?) so someone would actually have to steal the damn receptor itself and hack into it in order to get at, what, some mp3's of my beats? in return for facing jail time? i just feel like it might be a more secure solution for me.

a laptop could walk off, and brought back the next day, almost as easily as a pack of cds. call me paranoid, but this has been a concern of mine for ages, and i *thought* receptor might be the solution.

also, laptops are delicate as hell - do i really want one getting thrown in a closet under a pile of gear by some roadie at the end of each day?

As for my opinion, or anyone else, being a reason for Muse to not work on getting Traktor onto the Receptor, I don't carry that much weight. But seriously, I think there are TONS of other VST programs that are going to be their main priorities for awhile.

i'm sorry to hear that!

[projektio]

A couple of additional thoughts:

ok - for what it's worth, i'm getting a lot of work putting together bands at 5 star resorts in southeast asia. my angle is that i put together a band playing genre x (i work in several styles) but with a dj instead of a drummer. in the beginning, i was THE dj, but after a while i got so much work, and my band was so in demand, and other projects started coming my way, that i started to hire other dj's to play my beats behind several projects. and at this point, while i trust the handful of dj's i work with, if i continue expanding i'm gonna have to start working with whoever is available. and all one of these dj's has to do is walk off with my cd booklet, and. voila, they can do what i do, at least with 30-50 beats or so. then they can, for a while at least, work off of my efforts, undercut me on bids, etc. trust me, in southeast asia this is a plausible scenario.

This sounds like a really unique niche in the music market, so I congratulate you on finding it, and you should definitely exploit this as much as possible. Now as to your point about someone "walking off with my cd booklet" this is most certainly a possibility, you can't trust anyone. I have known plenty of DJs who have had vinyl and/or cds "disappear" after a night spinning at a club.

so what i'd like to do is load up all these beats onto a receptor, maybe with some synths/presets and maybe even a live virtual mixing board (perhaps even with some virtual security on the receptor? is that possible?) so someone would actually have to steal the damn receptor itself and hack into it in order to get at, what, some mp3's of my beats? in return for facing jail time? i just feel like it might be a more secure solution for me. A laptop could walk off, and brought back the next day, almost as easily as a pack of cds. call me paranoid, but this has been a concern of mine for ages, and i *thought* receptor might be the solution.

I think loading up your beats is certainly a possibility, and other guys here might know what would be the best software to do it. I mainly use my Receptor with virtual synths and/or guitar effects. For drums, I use BFD and Stylus RMX exclusively.

As for virtual security, there isn't any that I am aware of in the native software. And yes, while a thief would run-off with your beats in mp3 format, that could be as frustrating as losing a laptop, a book of cds, or anything. Plus, consider a $1500+/- loss of equipment which you probably would not have any insurance on, plus the ordeal would be irritating, time consuming to replace the equipment, reload your original software, etc.

And yes, if someone got caught they "might" face jail time, but of every musician I have known (including myself) who has seen gear get stolen at gigs, it is 1) rarely recovered and 2) even if it was found, the person who took it got away with it 99% of the time. Jail would be wishful thinking!

Oh yeah, and the Receptor is a computer, so if anyone has the time to look up what it is online, they could figure out a way to access the Receptor's hard drive and take whatever they wanted off of it (i.e. your MP3 beats)

also, laptops are delicate as hell - do i really want one getting thrown in a closet under a pile of gear by some roadie at the end of each day?

True, laptops can be fragile if not handled properly, but I still have yet to meet a DJ who uses a Receptor exclusively instead of a laptop. And of my 20 friends or so who DJ and have gotten away from vinyl/cds and moved toward more virtual means of "spinning" tracks, only 1-2 of them have attempted it, and they love their laptops, both PC and Mac. I think that since the Receptor is still a computer at heart, its components would still be fairly fragile, just like a laptop. I wonder if the Panasonic "ToughBook" series would be something to check out? They are RUGGED as hell man, my friends in the military use them...

At the end of the day, I would look further into the software end of things, to make sure that there is something available on the Receptor that would fit your needs, before you make the $1500 plunge into one.

Cheers!

projektio

[messiahwannabe]

A couple of additional thoughts:

I think loading up your beats is certainly a possibility, and other guys here might know what would be the best software to do it. I mainly use my Receptor with virtual synths and/or guitar effects. For drums, I use BFD and Stylus RMX exclusively.

nah, it's really go to be a "dj" - finding someone who can manipulate drum machines live here is not only difficult, but *really* opens me up to that someone ripping off my idea (i know it's something i will face at some point, but hiring a virtual knob twister to run my actual beatmaking gear for these gigs would be the equivalent of handing someone a manual for what i do along with my rolodex!) to your average dj, the beats i give him are at least, if stealable, not replicable

And yes, if someone got caught they "might" face jail time, but of every musician I have known (including myself) who has seen gear get stolen at gigs, it is 1) rarely recovered and 2) even if it was found, the person who took it got away with it 99% of the time. Jail would be wishful thinking!

well, with the receptor, i've got roadies and musicians looking out to make sure it doesn't walk off, and it's so big and bulky it's gonna be harder to pull off - theres plenty of security at these 5 star places.

and while i agree catching a hypothetical receptor thief where i live isn't exactly a given, but it's not exactly wishful thinking either. and he'd be facing a beatdown as well as jail time

Oh yeah, and the Receptor is a computer, so if anyone has the time to look up what it is online, they could figure out a way to access the Receptor's hard drive and take whatever they wanted off of it (i.e. your MP3 beats)

so it doesn't even have, say, password protection to get into the settings and stuff? i repeatedly see "you don't need a password to connect" in the ethernet setup chapter of the receptor manual i downloaded, so i'm thinking this isn't an option... receptor people, this would be a good optional featue, don't you think?

True, laptops can be fragile if not handled properly, but I still have yet to meet a DJ who uses a Receptor exclusively instead of a laptop. And of my 20 friends or so who DJ and have gotten away from vinyl/cds and moved toward more virtual means of "spinning" tracks, only 1-2 of them have attempted it, and they love their laptops, both PC and Mac.

so you have some friends who've attempted this then? what software did they use? how did it go, is it doable then? i'd *love* to know if you get a chance to ask them!

I wonder if the Panasonic "ToughBook" series would be something to check out? They are RUGGED as hell man, my friends in the military use them...

it's an interesting idea, but above-mentioned issues aside, i would NEVER use any sort of windows os onstage, EVER! it's way too unstable an os to depend on not to crash in the middle of a gig if you ask me

At the end of the day, I would look further into the software end of things, to make sure that there is something available on the Receptor that would fit your needs, before you make the $1500 plunge into one.

Cheers!

projektio

yup, that's what i'm doing here

[projektio]

For the sake of not quoting everything again:

1) I do not believe there is any sort of password protect mode on the Receptor. I have not seen it mentioned in the manual, and I have never run into it while messing around.

2) My friends have successfully been using products like Rane Scratch Live http://www.rane.com/scratch.html and Stanton Finalscratch http://www.stantondj.com/v2/fs/prod_fs2.asp I have seen both in action, and they're pretty impressive and versatile.

3) As for any platform of Windows, I know that Windows got an extremely bad rap with products like '95 and '98, but I have never crashed Windows XP SP2 and have been running it for years. I hated the early Windows OS as much as anyone, but WinXP is not unstable like that.

In fact I have had more problems with my Receptor crashing or rebooting over the course of a year than my laptop, so you won't be dodging a "technical issues" bullet by purchasing a Receptor. It is stable 99% of the time, but it's that pesky 1% that can irritate you...

4) If you don't like Windows, Mac laptops are a great way to go.

projektio