Muse Research

fraz · Post by **fraz** » Sat May 16, 2009 4:43 pm

Hello there,

I'm thinking of adding a recpeptor to my little studio but have some questions - I've been over to the muse research website to learn about it a bit more - One concern is multi-timbral instruments like Sonik Synth for example...

Currently I'd load up Sonik Synth into Cubase SX or maybe Orion and the outputs of Sonik Synth (from within the host) would appear in mixer channels within Cubase or Orion then there would be some separation...

From what I understand the receptor has uni-wire that opens up in the host say Cubase or Orion in this case....listening/watching some of the videos about receptor there are 16 MIDI channels to put instruments on but I couldn't see if there was a way to do what is described above....obviously I don't have receptor yet so am confused in this way which is why I'm here asking about it.....

Hope this hasn't confused you folks either.....

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fraz · Post by **fraz** » Sat May 16, 2009 5:17 pm

Have been reading a bit more.....read something about 92 MIDI ports 92x16 MIDI channels = a lot....

.....premusumably the outs of any multi-timbral synth can be matched up with these 92 MIDI ports (virtual ones).....

looneytunes · Post by **looneytunes** » Sat May 16, 2009 5:45 pm

Hi Fraz,

Sorry - that is not correct information. The Receptor can only respond to 16 MIDI channels. There is only one physical MIDI port - and one USB port can also be used simultaneously, but it shares the same 16 channels as the physical MIDI port.

As for UniWire, it shares all of the same MIDI channels, but doesn't expand them. While you can view all 16 Receptor Channels from the plugin, the plugin doesn't provide you with any more MIDI channels.

Hope this helps,
Kevin L

fraz · Post by **fraz** » Sat May 16, 2009 6:50 pm

Hi Kevin,

On the FAQ for the uni-wire plugin it is mentioned that there are 92 virtual MIDI ports which is 1472 virtual MIDI channels from within the Uni-wire plugin...when I read this I thought it may be possible to patch these virtual channels somehow with multi-timbral synths from within the receptor/uni-wire plugin......I understand that there is just the one MIDI in/out/thru......

As I don't have one yet I need to fathom out all it can do.....if you look at the uni-wire FAQ on the muse resarch website one of the questions is how many midi channels do I get with UniWire?

So if there are all these virtual midi channels there must be some way for them to be used! - Have a look and let me know what your thoughts are....

www.museresearch.com/uniwire.php?u=faq

looneytunes · Post by **looneytunes** » Sat May 16, 2009 10:11 pm

Hi Fraz,

Hmm - I didn't know that Muse was claiming this. I looked up the uniwire videos http://www.museresearch.com/movies/UniWire_Setup.mov where there is an option called "Bypass MIDI filter on single channel". I hadn't seen this before, perhaps it is part of a recent Uniwire/Receptor OS update. Anyway, this is what allows you to send multiple midi channels in Uniwire to a single (multi timbral, multi-midi channel) vsti. Of course, Uniwire does have a limitation on audio channels, so you only will get 2 of these per Receptor channel.

For me, I have used Uniwire with ProTools, but never trying to route more than one Midi channel per uniwire instance (eg. always 1 instrument per uniwire plugin, and one vsti configured per Receptor channel).

In practice, I have not had the greatest results with more than a few Uniwire plugs active. This was probably due to the limitations of the Uniwire implementation for RTAS (ProTools). Also, I just recently upgraded to a Receptor 2 Pro, which does have a gigabit ethernet port - that will probably help Uniwire performance. Behavior might be better with other interfaces (eg VST / AU) and other hosts (Logic, Cubase, ....). YMMV

Anyway, look at the .mov in the link above, (and other mov's on plugorama.com), then look at the uniwire manual - that should help answer questions.

Hope this helps, Regards,
Kevin L

fraz · Post by **fraz** » Sun May 17, 2009 12:02 am

Hi Kevin,

Yes, I managed to download the UniWire manual PDF and have read the relevant part bypass MIDI filter something or other which enables anyone to have 16 MIDI channels on each receptor instrument channel and the manual says that you can use any synth just like you would as if it were installed on your computer.....sending different instruments to different MIDI channels..it wasn't worded exactly like I've typed it out here though.....

This will be very useful for use with Sonik Synth etc.....which are multi-timbral and in UniWire you can have many instances of this inside host....

This is good news and has answered the main query.........there was a bit of tech jargon, though, about 100 t-base ethernet, some sort of speed necessary for ethernet to work properly with rececptor.......is this a standard thing on most new PC's??? - I got a PC last year, a reasonable one, with ethernet on as standard, would this be easily good enough??? - I would have thought so......thanks anyway for the help......

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:34 pm

Uniwire is what it is. I never get good results with it

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