Muse Research

BlackMath · Post by **BlackMath** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:24 am

Now that you've got the Receptor 2, my RevC is basically worthless.... I paid almost 2400 for the Komplete version. I tried selling it on ebay but no one wants it because you cleared em out for less than a $1000.

Thanks for nothing. I will never buy one your products ever again and will never recommend your gear to my peers.

I hope you go out of business.

koalaboy · Post by **koalaboy** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:23 am

You mean your RevC no longer does what it used to before ? Or are you just whining.

BlackMath · Post by **BlackMath** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:09 pm

No it still is what it always was: an undeveloped product with $hitty support for legacy or otherwise.

And yeah I am whining if thats how you want to look at it. I bought a product from a company that seemed to be legit only to have the unit loose more than 2/3 its value in less than a year of ownership.

Thats bullshit and I'm pissed and I want people researching Receptors to see this because really nothing has changed with the release of Receptor 2.

xybre · Post by **xybre** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:51 pm

BlackMath wrote:I bought a product from a company that seemed to be legit only to have the unit loose more than 2/3 its value in less than a year of ownership.

I don't own a Receptor, but if I was doing research on one, it would sound a lot to me like you're butthurt over not being able to sell it for the same price you bought it for. If their technology department keeps up to date, that's exactly what would happen. Thats actually a point in their favor. Sounds like they're staying on the cutting edge.

I bought all the parts for my computer about a year ago and if I were to buy them now they would be a fraction of the price I paid, thats the price of buying top of the line.

If thats not the problem, then perhaps you should be more clear instead of just whining. If 500 people see your post, I doubt a single one will not buy a Receptor because of it because you never outlined a problem.

mal7 · Post by **mal7** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:34 pm

With regard to your comment about poor technical support,I have to disagree. My emails to support were answered promptly, and quickly solved any issues I was having.
I am extremely happy with my new Receptor 2 and would highly recommend it to anyone reading this. Not cheap, but worth every penny IMO

BlackMath · Post by **BlackMath** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:47 pm

xybre wrote:
BlackMath wrote:I bought a product from a company that seemed to be legit only to have the unit loose more than 2/3 its value in less than a year of ownership.
I don't own a Receptor, but if I was doing research on one, it would sound a lot to me like you're butthurt over not being able to sell it for the same price you bought it for. If their technology department keeps up to date, that's exactly what would happen. Thats actually a point in their favor. Sounds like they're staying on the cutting edge.

I bought all the parts for my computer about a year ago and if I were to buy them now they would be a fraction of the price I paid, thats the price of buying top of the line.

If thats not the problem, then perhaps you should be more clear instead of just whining. If 500 people see your post, I doubt a single one will not buy a Receptor because of it because you never outlined a problem.

Who said anything about selling it for the same price I bought it for???? I'd be lucky to get $800-1000 for it.

And I build my own computers as well and am able to recoup more than half of the total build price.

and if you think the Receptor 2 "upgrade" to a single core/dual core is "staying on the cutting edge" then you're not.

and since you need it spoon fed: Heres the problem.... Planned obsolescence

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:54 pm

Complain if you like but keep it civil.

BlackMath · Post by **BlackMath** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:00 pm

[quote="Meffy"]Complain if you like but keep it civil.[/quote

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tomg · Post by **tomg** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:06 pm

ESI-32 New in 1995 $800.00 Used "Buy it Now" $89.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MU-Systems-ESI-32 ... .m20.l1116

BlackMath · Post by **BlackMath** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:10 pm

tomg wrote:ESI-32 New in 1995 $800.00 Used "Buy it Now" $89.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MU-Systems-ESI-32 ... .m20.l1116

thats 14 years there genius.

I bought my Receptor in Nov of 2008.

projektio · Post by **projektio** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:21 am

BlackMath wrote:Now that you've got the Receptor 2, my RevC is basically worthless.... I paid almost 2400 for the Komplete version. I tried selling it on ebay but no one wants it because you cleared em out for less than a $1000.

Thanks for nothing. I will never buy one your products ever again and will never recommend your gear to my peers.

I hope you go out of business.

While I can certainly appreciate the level of frustration that many people voice here about lack of support for "this and that" software, what did you expect for a piece of computer technology? The instant you buy anything that has a motherboard and a CPU the thing is obsolete within two weeks. You could make the same argument for all computers.

If you bought this thing somehow thinking it was going to retain a certain level of value, then you should have bought a Moog back in the 70s that holds more than its fair share of worth even given for inflation.

If you don't like their support or the lack of particular software; that's understandable. But I wouldn't complain about the resale value of something like a Receptor. It is nothing more than a rackmountable computer, that is stripped down in OS to only do one thing.

I am not overly thrilled with how the Receptor turned out, and part of me regrets upgrading from Rev C to Pro Jr a year or more ago, not realizing the Receptor 2 was around the corner. It still does some thing alright but its quirky enough that from here on out I will simply build a cheaper rackmount computer myself.

projektio

BlackMath · Post by **BlackMath** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:53 am

I see so by your logic if I bought a Mac g5 last Nov. for $3300 and then tried to sell it now, July 2009, I should expect to only get $1000 for it??? Sorry but that's not the case. You could easily expect to get at least half or more of your money back when selling in less than a year.

Muse Research sucks as a company... they are just ripping people off...plain and simple. Their product barely works and all the endorsements, testimonials, and a semi-slick website is all smoke and mirrors.

Whatever I'm done venting.... I don't care anymore

I'll just hack it and do my own upgrades or do some trades locally or something.

But I will continue to talk smack about Muse Research because all they are is a bunch of hype.... ie uniwire (weak) direct install (works about 5% of the time)... noisy adat outputs. Piss poor support.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:15 am

BlackMath wrote:
tomg wrote:ESI-32 New in 1995 $800.00 Used "Buy it Now" $89.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MU-Systems-ESI-32 ... .m20.l1116
thats 14 years there genius.

I bought my Receptor in Nov of 2008.

There is a difference between value, and resale value. My car has little resale value, but gets me to work every day, so has lots of real-world value. Same with my 2-core cpu compared to the fastest dual quad-core. I can still make music, so its street value is much less than its real value. Hope you sit down with your favourite recepted plugins, and make some cool music. Its an excellent tool.

If times are hard, and you need the money, consider that companies can be in the same
hard times, and have to clear out old stock to keep the doors open. Even a big name
like Native Instruments has to flood the market with cheap Komplete 5, before Komplete 6
is out, to keep un-committed funds $$$ away from kompeting products. Since softsynths don't rust and wear out, people don't 'need' to buy new ones, when the future is cloudy.

Did you honestly by the Receptor because it was the end of the line? Or as an investment?
People tend to buy high-end gear to solidify their studio, and enhance productivity.
So crank out some tunes, even some blues is OK, lots of folks are coming up short in hard times.

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:11 am

BlackMath wrote:noisy adat outputs

johnrule · Post by **johnrule** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:52 pm

BlackMath wrote: I'll just hack it and do my own upgrades

My plans exactly...

Wait until SSD prices are fairly inexpensive before you get rid of it though...a 120 gig or higher drive should make it quite useful again.

I did quite a bit of experimenting with Linux and WineHQ, and I was able to install all of my VST plug-ins for use in V-Stack or energyXT. The stand-alone versions worked as well. It is good to have an alternative to XP in case it is not available in the future.

The only problem I can see is USB authorized software, but I believe there is a work around for that too.

Good luck.

JR

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