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Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:28 pm

Urs,

I would like to know: Have you ever thought about building a synth with a non-modular approach, made out of the building blocks of the Zebra?

I personally think it would be quite interesting. The Zebra's oscillators, filters, different envelopes, effects, arp.. all are awesome, and sound delicious. But all this modulation freedom could be too much for some fools like me. Call me crazy, but somehow in a more limited environment with a more general signal route and therefore less possibilities I usually get things faster done

And I might not be the only one preferring a less modular approach in their synths so there might be a market.

The idea would probably have crossed your mind at some particular moment. I mean, despite that you must be one of the most busy developers on earth, you must have a lot of code "ready" for it already. And you would have a new product in the Synth line that you can sell with a new and interesting price.

Zebra's "little sister"? What do you think?

Just a thought (so don't flame me

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HauntedWeather · Post by **HauntedWeather** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:47 pm

I'm all addled with flu at the moment, so I might be missing the point, but are you aware of Zebralette?

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:15 pm

I sometimes get overwhelmed at the amount of options in Z2 as well. What I do to combat it is use the Transmission templates. Ben made 32 templates as sort of starter-synths.

You can read about them in his manual http://zebrasynth.com/download/z2_trans ... manual.pdf. Start on page 25, he details how each one is set up, including the XY pads!

If you have the discipline and don't add any other modules I find this is a great way to tweak something much simpler. If you don't want to buy the bank you can probably make a similar set of your own based on the document. but really, for $30 you get some great sounds, a ton of variation XY presets, OSC presets, MSEG presets, and these templates.

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:19 pm

HauntedWeather wrote:I'm all addled with flu at the moment, so I might be missing the point, but are you aware of Zebralette?

Yes I am. I was thinking a little more "bigger" than that. Zebralette is nice and great to learn the Zebra basics, but we need a little more oscillators, filters etc to get really interesting stuff happening

And for you, get well soon

Gucky · Post by **Gucky** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:34 pm

Hi Nielzie,
some days ago I questioned Urs for a more limited synth.
He answered me that he is making a synth with a structure similiar to the Jupiter 6 but with some functions of the MS 20.
I hope it will be released soon.

I love Zebra 2 but for a fool like me it is sometimes to complicated to program it too.

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:49 pm

Non-modular Zebra? Sounds like ZebraCM to me.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:56 pm

poonna wrote:Non-modular Zebra? Sounds like ZebraCM to me.

+1
Defintively a keeper.
The restricted featureset makes you understand the bigger Zebra better.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:04 pm

poonna wrote:Non-modular Zebra? Sounds like ZebraCM to me.

Its great for making new sounds. A great balance of features and ease of use.

I do recommend getting the Zebra Youtube Video Collection, at a great introductory price

The boss does a nice job of introducing things to reduce the complexity

Dialup users, empty your web-browser cache, play the youtube, it will be the big one that grows (you can watch the cache folder as the video plays.) Rename it as desired with
a .flv extension, like Z2-mod-matrix.flv etc etc Then move it somewhere useful.

Cheers

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:28 pm

ZebraCM it's on every dvd included when you buy ComputerMusic (CM) magazine.
Here's a pic of it, and also Triple Cheese is there too. It's like the comb filters in Zebra2.
http://www.tasmodia.com/projects/u-he/u-he_misc.html

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:41 pm

Gucky wrote:Hi Nielzie,
some days ago I questioned Urs for a more limited synth.
He answered me that he is making a synth with a structure similiar to the Jupiter 6 but with some functions of the MS 20.

Hehehe, that's of course some strictly secret information

The thing is that the new synth may look limited, but it is modular, although not overwhelmingly so (patch cords are a "can", not a "must"). I'm doing this because I got many requests for a low cost synth, for a synth that is ideal for learning synthesis and also because I'm shocked that timewARP 2600 is still the only decent softsynth of its kind. Needless to say, it's going to be the entry level bait for Berlin Modular. It comes with a voucher that can be 100% recouped when buying Berlin Modular if it's ever going to be finished.

It is however nowhere near a non-modular Zebra

I hope it will be released soon.

I hope so too.

With a grain of salt and then some: December '09

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:24 am

Urs wrote:The thing is that the new synth may look limited, but it is modular, although not overwhelmingly so (patch cords are a "can", not a "must"). I'm doing this because I got many requests for a low cost synth, for a synth that is ideal for learning synthesis and also because I'm shocked that timewARP 2600 is still the only decent softsynth of its kind. Needless to say, it's going to be the entry level bait for Berlin Modular. It comes with a voucher that can be 100% recouped when buying Berlin Modular if it's ever going to be finished.

Bazille?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:46 am

poonna wrote:Bazille?

Well, Bazille is foremost a FM/PD synth, and an insanely complex one to start with. It might be a bit too intimidating for some

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:57 am

Urs wrote:
poonna wrote:Bazille?
Well, Bazille is foremost a FM/PD synth, and an insanely complex one to start with. It might be a bit too intimidating for some

I find the advantage in dealing with "insanely complex" things, is that all lesser things are then easily taken for granted.

(no wait, let me rephrase that)

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Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:10 am

MCnoone wrote:ZebraCM it's on every dvd included when you buy ComputerMusic (CM) magazine.
Here's a pic of it, and also Triple Cheese is there too. It's like the comb filters in Zebra2.
http://www.tasmodia.com/projects/u-he/u-he_misc.html

Hey thanks for the tip guys, I did not know that one actually.. I'll search for a CM in the dutch stores then.

Urs wrote:The thing is that the new synth may look limited, but it is modular, although not overwhelmingly so (patch cords are a "can", not a "must"). I'm doing this because I got many requests for a low cost synth, for a synth that is ideal for learning synthesis and also because I'm shocked that timewARP 2600 is still the only decent softsynth of its kind. Needless to say, it's going to be the entry level bait for Berlin Modular. It comes with a voucher that can be 100% recouped when buying Berlin Modular if it's ever going to be finished.

Interesting, I know Bazille (the alpha/beta version) but a more limited version could be nice too. Will it have the same looks as Bazille? If not, any screenies?

Will Phoenix · Post by **Will Phoenix** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:25 am

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u-he

KVR Audio

Zebra-like with non modular approach - could it be?