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BR393 · Post by **BR393** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:39 pm

Hi,

I'm using Cubase 64 5.1.1 on Vista 64 and ACE doesn't appear in my list of VST instruments. I can see it and use it in Kore 2 standalone, but there's nothing there in Cubase. Also, if I open Kore VST in Cubase and then open ACE in Kore, Cubase freezes and crashes.

Anyone else having issues with ACE and Cubase 64 5.1.1?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:45 pm

That's new to me. I havn't got Cubase 5 though, it would be great if someone else could confirm what's going on...

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:56 pm

A 64 bit host needs 64 bit plugs, it wont see 32 bit plugs. I take it that ACE is 32 bit.

BR393 · Post by **BR393** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:07 pm

Actually you can use 32-bit plugs in a 64-bit host, and I currently do. They get stored in the Programs Files(x86) directory with all the other 32-bit programs.

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:07 pm

UltraJv wrote:A 64 bit host needs 64 bit plugs, it wont see 32 bit plugs.

that's what i thought but i have seen a x86 to 64bit wrapper about KvR somewhere

Subz

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:16 pm

BR393 wrote:Actually you can use 32-bit plugs in a 64-bit host, and I currently do. They get stored in the Programs Files(x86) directory with all the other 32-bit programs.

Some hosts work better than others with this. You will either need a bridge or 64 bit plugs. jbridge is the one to watch :

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/13208.html

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:36 pm

I just installed ACE on Windows 7 x64, along with Cubase x64 - the 32-bit version of Cubase was already installed.

In Cubase 32 everything is working great - both ACE and Zebra 2 are visible and work as expected.

In Cubase 64 both Zebra 2 and Zebralette show up in the instrument list, but ACE does not even though it is installed to the same folder - very strange.

ACE does work in the 64 bit version of Sonar.

Peace,
Andy.

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:44 pm

Its a well known limitation of Cubase 64 bit. Theres more on the problem and using jbridge to solve it here :

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=244999

The easy way round it is to use Cubase 32 bit for now.

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:47 pm

UltraJv wrote:Its a well known limitation of Cubase 64 bit. Theres more on jbridge here :

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=244999

What are you talking about? I just ran some tests and reported my findings.

All of the 32-bit plug-ins installed, including Alchemy and other U-he plug-ins, are visible in Cubase 5 x64 except ACE. I will repeat: that is strange.

Peace,
Andy.

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:50 pm

ZenPunkHippy wrote:
UltraJv wrote:Its a well known limitation of Cubase 64 bit. Theres more on jbridge here :

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=244999
What are you talking about? I just ran some tests and reported my findings.

All of the 32-bit plug-ins installed, including Alchemy and other U-he plug-ins, are visible in Cubase 5 x64 except ACE. I will repeat: that is strange.

Peace,
Andy.

Its only strange if you dont know about the issue. The link I posted shows that many people have trouble with Cubase 64 bit not working with 32 bit plugs. Thats why UMD made jbridge. A quote from that thread "Cubase current VST bridge sucks" - No point in shooting the messenger.

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:53 pm

UltraJv wrote:Its only strange if you dont know about the issue. The link I posted shows that many people have trouble with Cubase 64 bit not working with 32 bit plugs. Thats why UMD made jbridge. No point in shooting the messenger.

Yes, I am aware of that but you would expect several plug-ins from the same developer to work given that they will share, to a certain extend the same code base. That is why I call it strange

Peace,
Andy.

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:56 pm

ZenPunkHippy wrote:
UltraJv wrote:Its only strange if you dont know about the issue. The link I posted shows that many people have trouble with Cubase 64 bit not working with 32 bit plugs. Thats why UMD made jbridge. No point in shooting the messenger.
Yes, I am aware of that but you would expect several plug-ins from the same developer to work given that they will share, to a certain extend the same code base. That is why I call it strange

Peace,
Andy.

You may have a point but it may be too much to ask URS fix something that aint broke, you could equally pass this to Steinberg and ask them to fix the bridge

Steinberg say "We cannot guarantee that every plugin works with the VST Bridge"

Add your voice :

http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=121917

BR393 · Post by **BR393** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:40 am

Well, I tried out jBridge and I was able to get ACE working in Cubase 5 64-bit, but the GUI response though jBridge was pretty choppy and annoying. I hadn't even installed the 32-bit version of Cubase 5 yet, so I gave that a try and it seems everything works fine in it. So, I guess I'll be sticking with Cubase 5 32-bit for a while. ACE isn't the only plugin I've had problems with in the 64-bit version. Still too soon to go 64-bit all the way I guess.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:53 am

I'll be working on 64 bit quite a bit as I'm finally upgrading my system after the current round of updates

sonicfire · Post by **sonicfire** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:11 pm

Urs wrote:u-he | u-he lego synth | ACE

hahaha! haven't seen that before

that's simply crazy. love it!

u-he

KVR Audio

ACE not recognized by Cubase 5.1.1