Grid = bar assumes 4 beats per bar?
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- KVRist
- 56 posts since 10 Sep, 2009 from GB
Hi,
In MU 2.6 and 3, if you set beats per bar to 6 and set the grid to 'bar', the Composer window uses a grid of 4 beats, not whole 6-beat bars. E.g. when sizing a new part or moving the loop locators. The docs and mutools.com site only has one reference to 'grid' and I didn't find anything on the forum, so perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious?
If it's by design then presumably in anything other than 4/4 you'd always set the grid to something other than bar.
In MU 2.6 and 3, if you set beats per bar to 6 and set the grid to 'bar', the Composer window uses a grid of 4 beats, not whole 6-beat bars. E.g. when sizing a new part or moving the loop locators. The docs and mutools.com site only has one reference to 'grid' and I didn't find anything on the forum, so perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious?
If it's by design then presumably in anything other than 4/4 you'd always set the grid to something other than bar.
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I tried to repeat this so to see what you mean but can't repeat it.nicenoise wrote:In MU 2.6 and 3, if you set beats per bar to 6 and set the grid to 'bar', the Composer window uses a grid of 4 beats, not whole 6-beat bars. E.g. when sizing a new part or moving the loop locators.
I'm in the dark about what you mean. Can you please elaborate, eventually using a screenshot.
- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Oh - I got this with the composer loop locators, too with my 5/4 piece. I forgot about that.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 56 posts since 10 Sep, 2009 from GB
Of course. Step by step:mutools wrote:I tried to repeat this so to see what you mean but can't repeat it.
I'm in the dark about what you mean. Can you please elaborate, eventually using a screenshot.
1. Open MU.LAB and start a new session. The end loop locator on the timeline (button with clockwise half-circle arrow) is on the 4th beat.
2. Right-click Composer background / Composition / Edit Properties
3. Change 'beats per bar' to 6
4. Right-click Composer background / Grid / Choose grid
5. Select 'bar'
6. Click and drag the end loop locator - it moves in 4-beat increments rather than whole bars, now that bars are 6 beats long. As if it still thinks bars are 4 beats long.
7. Double click on track and create a new sequence.
8. Resize the sequence by dragging its right-hand edge. It too moves in 4-beat increments instead of whole 6-beat bars.
It could be I haven't understood something about MU.LAB, but at first glance it seems awry that things don't move in whole-bar steps when grid is set to 'bar' and beats-per-bar isn't 4.
As a workaround I just set the grid to 'beat' but it would be nice to have it snap to bar.
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
- KVRian
- 1233 posts since 29 Dec, 2008 from Lithuania
Yep, noticed the same behavior.
This happens with time signature like 3/4, 5/4, 6/4... and so on, whatever is not 4 based number.
I usually fix it by setting "snap to grid" to beat instead of bar.
This happens with time signature like 3/4, 5/4, 6/4... and so on, whatever is not 4 based number.
I usually fix it by setting "snap to grid" to beat instead of bar.
- KVRian
- 1233 posts since 29 Dec, 2008 from Lithuania
Actually, you don't get support like that from anybody elsenicenoise wrote:you don't get support like that from Microsoft
