I know there are some Waldorf wavetables available. I am curious how close Zebra can get to the Waldorf sound. The Waldorf filters seem to be able to get pretty darn nasty. Most of the sound demos I've heard of Zebra all sound pretty smooth and soft.
Does anyone have any sound demos done with the alternate wavetables?
Can Zebra do Waldorf
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- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
Maybe post a sound example as to what your looking for.
In the mean time you can listen here to some of those Zebra soft and smooth sounds.
Soft One Egg
http://www.box.net/shared/214c43u7tm
Smooth Boiled
http://www.box.net/shared/8kofpf83rv
I Eat Waldorf
http://www.box.net/shared/1d00evpmon
In the mean time you can listen here to some of those Zebra soft and smooth sounds.
Soft One Egg
http://www.box.net/shared/214c43u7tm
Smooth Boiled
http://www.box.net/shared/8kofpf83rv
I Eat Waldorf
http://www.box.net/shared/1d00evpmon
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Here are 2 mp3's of sounds I just made using wave morphing in Zebra.GruvSyco wrote:Does anyone have any sound demos done with the alternate wavetables?
This one cycles through about 10 waves using an lfo.
It's 2 oscillators and a filter.
It's sound flows from nasty to soft according to the lfo rate
WaveMorph lead
http://www.box.net/shared/t5ybtbtdh8
The next one is using 6 waves and modulated by velocity.
It sounds pretty thick to me.
ThickWaves
http://www.box.net/shared/2pqce7h31v
Maybe you can point me in the direction of some Waldorf mp3 example of what your asking about. I can only go by sound examples, and not words that mean different things to different people.
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- KVRian
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- 657 posts since 2 May, 2002 from Kalispell, MT
My reference I suppose comes from the Largo demo, the audio samples on their page, tracks one of my friends recorded with his Q and XTK, my own doinking about on a Q in the music stores.
From their audio samples: Track 1 at about 45%, Track 4, Track 6 and Track 7 all sound pretty representative of what I would call the Waldorf sound. Bright, aggressive, fat.
I'll fire up the demo a little later and see if I can't list some specific patches.
From their audio samples: Track 1 at about 45%, Track 4, Track 6 and Track 7 all sound pretty representative of what I would call the Waldorf sound. Bright, aggressive, fat.
I'll fire up the demo a little later and see if I can't list some specific patches.
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- KVRAF
- 5817 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
I might be wrong, but I don't think Urs likes the Waldorf sound too much...
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- KVRist
- 141 posts since 1 Dec, 2007 from Cologne, Germany
I tried to recreate some of my Microwave I sounds some time ago. It works quite well when using them in the middle key range. It fails completely when playing the lower octaves because they sound very smooth on Zebra while the Microwave becomes very nasty there.
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- 657 posts since 2 May, 2002 from Kalispell, MT
I guess this here is what I was fearing. I was looking at a Demo of XMF and it gave me some hope. Ultimately I was hoping I could get away with just purchasing Zebra, because it seems to be so versatile but it looks as though I may end up getting Zebra and Largo.phazed wrote:I tried to recreate some of my Microwave I sounds some time ago. It works quite well when using them in the middle key range. It fails completely when playing the lower octaves because they sound very smooth on Zebra while the Microwave becomes very nasty there.
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- KVRian
- 1394 posts since 6 May, 2005 from Michigan, USA
Like phazed noted, the oscillators on the older Waldorf hardware alias very noticeably, which adds a grit and aggressiveness to the sound, especially in the lower registers for gritty digital basses. That's the main reason I wasn't so keen on Largo when I demoed it right after its release - it didn't get that low register grit and the wavetables sounded very muffled and dead in the lower keyboard range (an "oscillator brilliance" paramter has since been added to Largo which may help there - not sure, as it wasn't there when I demoed). I did a few PPG/Microwave type patches with Zebra as well, but it's more like a smooth, hi-fi version of those sounds that isn't quite the same.
If you're looking for more retro/dirty-sounding wavetable action, check out the Waldorf PPG 3.V - getting an early-generation wavetable synth kind of grit in the sound was one of the major tasks undertaken for the new version.
If you're looking for more retro/dirty-sounding wavetable action, check out the Waldorf PPG 3.V - getting an early-generation wavetable synth kind of grit in the sound was one of the major tasks undertaken for the new version.
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New album, Chasing Fire, out now on Amazon, iTunes, etc.
Bandcamp: https://davidvector.bandcamp.com/releases
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Zebra2 doesn't do instant clones - but there's really no better VA "emulator" on the planet. 5/10 must try harderphazed wrote:I tried to recreate some of my Microwave I sounds some time ago. It works quite well when using them in the middle key range. It fails completely when playing the lower octaves because they sound very smooth on Zebra while the Microwave becomes very nasty there.
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- 30216 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
For gritty low ends you might want to use samplerate reduction. Put the SR filter of one VCF between the oscillators and lowpass, controlled by keyfollow.
I'm usually not keen on digital oscillators, that's true. Zebra can become very "raunchy" too, but maybe in different ways. However, listening to the Largo examples I think sample rate reduction is way to go.
I'm usually not keen on digital oscillators, that's true. Zebra can become very "raunchy" too, but maybe in different ways. However, listening to the Largo examples I think sample rate reduction is way to go.
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- KVRist
- 141 posts since 1 Dec, 2007 from Cologne, Germany
I tried using SR of course, but for some reason I don't remember now, it didn't work as expected.
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Could you post the best example of the original sound somewhere?phazed wrote:I tried using SR of course, but for some reason I don't remember now, it didn't work as expected.
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- KVRist
- 141 posts since 1 Dec, 2007 from Cologne, Germany
Unfortunately not. My Microwave isn't available currently, so I can't record the sound.Howard wrote: Could you post the best example of the original sound somewhere?