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johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:07 am

Just wondering if any forum members have a Kronos controlling their Receptor.
I've been trying for a couple of hours now but can't get the receptor to respond to volume or program change from the Kronos

ndurant · Post by **ndurant** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:12 pm

Are you certain the Kronos is actually transmitting them? It would be worth connecting your Kronos to a computer and running something like MIDI-OX or similar, to see if the Kronos really is sending those controllers.

johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:59 pm

Yes I'm quite sure the Kronos is transmitting. I can hear the Receptor when playing the Kronos ,just no control over volume and prog change
I've hooked the Kronos up to my Wavestation Sr(to check) and it works fine .I can send volume and prog change cc
BTW what an awesome combination.... if only I could get them to co-operate with each other

ndurant · Post by **ndurant** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:06 pm

Ok so you're sure that the controller/prog changes are getting to the Receptor as well as MIDI note data..... How do you have your Receptor set up in terms of plugins loaded? Do you intend program changes to change the Receptor multi, or a plugin patch? On your settings page, do you have the "Receptor program changes" and "Route MIDI CCs" settings configured correctly?

johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:08 pm

I use combi mode with plugins on channel 1 thru 5 (each combie is a big pad,and i use master channel 16 on cc 14 to bring up or down the pad volume).I've been successful using this method with my Nord stage,or Axiom as a controller Program change changes the whole multi.
In setup use bank select is ticked and route cc to source plugin is not ticked.

ndurant · Post by **ndurant** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:27 pm

Ok, so with 'Route CC to source plugin' not ticked, the Receptor plugin won't be receiving your CC14 messages, from what I understand. Also I've found that some plugins don't respond to program changes (remember that the MIDI channel is usually mapped to something different within the plugin too).

johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:35 pm

Thanx for reading endurant. I'm sure I'll get it sorted out eventually. It's just weird because I've verified the Receptor is responding to these cc from other boards, and on the other hand the Kronos is sending these cc to other modules(just not the receptor)

johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:14 pm

Well ,I got sliders 1 thru 16 to respond ,but still can't send cc message to to master slider on on mixer of the receptor from the master slider on the Kronos.

Kevin@MuseResearch · Post by **Kevin@MuseResearch** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:04 pm

Receptor's Master slider operates through CC # 14 on channel 16. You must configure the Korg to send that.

- Kevin

johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:24 pm

Thanx Kevin I knew about the master slider receiving volume messages as cc 14 on channel 16(been doing it for some time from another controller). As I suspected it was a setting on the Kronos... you have to create an external template and assign it to the combi on the Kronos.
Now to sort out the program change delema

Meo · Post by **Meo** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:27 pm

Yes I do have a Kronos.

Took me a while to get it going thought.

I set the receptor to receive only on channel 12. Otherwise the setlist will send a program change everytime you select another slot.

What do you want to know?

johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:01 am

Hello Meo
where in the receptor did you set the midi channel to receive on 12?
How is the receptor set up,do you have sets of combies that you can step through from the Krono?

Meo · Post by **Meo** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:07 am

Hi johnnyjd,

Well in the setup, you can change the receiving channel of the receptor. Make sure you tick ignore bank select and target multi. I've selected channel 12.

Then in the mixer, each track is also set to 12. This way, since my Kronos is on global channel 1, I don't see everything moving on the receptor everytime I fiddle around with the knobs and slidders of the kronos control surface. Or when I browse programs, the receptor remains idle.

Most of my snapshots banks have less then 7 patches; so in the kronos, I've reserved the first 7 combi slots (U-B) just for the receptor prgm change.

The whole idea is as follow:

In the combi U-B000, I set track 12 to EXT on channel 12. The instrument is KRONOS German Grand, which is prgrm number 0 in the kronos. This is what is driving the prgrm change. I named this combi PATCH1.

The next combi U-B001, same thing, except in track 12, I select the very next instrument after German Grand. I think it's German Dark Grand. I name this combi PATCH2.

So on and so forth. Now, when I move around these combi, Receptor is switching between the snapshot's patch. It's the program number in track 12 that is indicating to the receptor what patch # to select.

randyandyvandaman · Post by **randyandyvandaman** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:33 am

Crikeys mate Receptor seems complicated.

My 88 key Kronos arrives on Tuesday and I intend to to use it as a plug in within Maschine.

Kronos Editor and Plug-In Editor
Kronos Version 1.5 adds support for the Kronos Editor and Plug-In Editor, which allows the editing and organizing sounds from a Mac OS X or Windows computer. Plug-in operation allows you to save settings as part of your project with any VST-compatible Windows software, or any VST- or AU-compatible software on Mac OS X

Hope I dont have to go through too much hassle.

Cheers

johnnyjd · Post by **johnnyjd** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:33 pm

Thanx for the detailed breakdown Meo. But why can't you just use LSB and MSB followed by program change the switch combies on your Receptor

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