DIVA GUI Suggestions

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Well I have a couple of sugestions for the DIVA GUI:

- In the moog inspired modules the led dot on pot's are a little bit small, could be nice if they were bigger.
- Text on default size could be a little bit bigger.
- The switches (on offf) arent particular clear, maybe including a led to indicate its status could improve this.
- A bigger font for the patch names in the patch page.
- In the Dual VCO module I am not sure if its intended that waveforms switches can be turned on all at once. Is this the intended behaviour?
- I dont know if its possible that in the other modules other than the moog, the color of the position line in pots could also change colors (like if they were leds).
-Bigger switches for effects.

Sorry if it seems to much, just wanted to give some feedback, so far I love the sound of it.

Many thanks Urs.
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rod_zero wrote:- In the Dual VCO module I am not sure if its intended that waveforms switches can be turned on all at once. Is this the intended behaviour?
It's certainly desirable behavior!

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My biggest GUI request would be that the knob values displayed in the window actually mean something. For instance, output should display the DB I'm adding or subtracting, Delay Time should show the interval that it's currently set to sync to, Cutoff should show the cutoff frequency, attack should display the attack time, etc.

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NewsFromTheSky wrote:
rod_zero wrote:- In the Dual VCO module I am not sure if its intended that waveforms switches can be turned on all at once. Is this the intended behaviour?
It's certainly desirable behavior!
But then...is it producing a combined waveform or two or more?
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rod_zero wrote:
NewsFromTheSky wrote:
rod_zero wrote:- In the Dual VCO module I am not sure if its intended that waveforms switches can be turned on all at once. Is this the intended behaviour?
It's certainly desirable behavior!
But then...is it producing a combined waveform or two or more?
It's on/off for each waveform. The Jupi 8 could only do one at a time, Jupi 6 could do two. A pimped Jupi 6 /w Europa extension can also do none. A u-he pimped one can do any number of available waveforms, at once.

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btw. the mixed waveforms are attenuated - so that combined waveforms seem to be sme volume as single ones.

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rod_zero wrote:
NewsFromTheSky wrote:
rod_zero wrote:- In the Dual VCO module I am not sure if its intended that waveforms switches can be turned on all at once. Is this the intended behaviour?
It's certainly desirable behavior!
But then...is it producing a combined waveform or two or more?
If they're both being produced by a single oscillator then there's no difference. Multiple waveforms would have the exact same tuning though, since there's only the one oscillator.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:My biggest GUI request would be that the knob values displayed in the window actually mean something. For instance, output should display the DB I'm adding or subtracting, Delay Time should show the interval that it's currently set to sync to, Cutoff should show the cutoff frequency, attack should display the attack time, etc.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!


That, and (this picked up from Gearslutz) this:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/7291906-post404.html

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Actually, the values pretty much always mean something. Any tuning is always in semitones or even MIDI Note Number, such as filter cutoff. Any volume is in linear percent, any gain is in dB. Any modulation is usually in the same unit as the parameter, but most of the time in twice the range (bipolar then)

Panning is always +3dB square root crossfade law. As are e.g. oscillator crossfades and some fx dry/wet knobs.

When there's time units, such as delay going from 1-16, then it's sixteenth. For slower fx, such as phaser or flanger, the synced time units mean quarters, so that a sweep can take up to 100 quarters synced to host tempo.

Some parameters do not have units, such as envelope times, resonance, non-synced phaser/rotary rate - because they are scaled non-linearly "by ear" and may sound differently when other setting vary.

With next beta we have rescaled drift, lag and slops. They are not linear anymore for more intuitive control.

So you see, in most cases the units have a very clear meaning. Sometimes not, but then for a reason.

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Urs wrote:When there's time units, such as delay going from 1-16, then it's sixteenth.
No quick way to sync to triplets?

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Urs wrote:Actually, the values pretty much always mean something. Any tuning is always in semitones or even MIDI Note Number, such as filter cutoff. Any volume is in linear percent, any gain is in dB. Any modulation is usually in the same unit as the parameter, but most of the time in twice the range (bipolar then)

Panning is always +3dB square root crossfade law. As are e.g. oscillator crossfades and some fx dry/wet knobs.

When there's time units, such as delay going from 1-16, then it's sixteenth. For slower fx, such as phaser or flanger, the synced time units mean quarters, so that a sweep can take up to 100 quarters synced to host tempo.

Some parameters do not have units, such as envelope times, resonance, non-synced phaser/rotary rate - because they are scaled non-linearly "by ear" and may sound differently when other setting vary.

With next beta we have rescaled drift, lag and slops. They are not linear anymore for more intuitive control.

So you see, in most cases the units have a very clear meaning. Sometimes not, but then for a reason.
I think he meant to display the units next to the number. "1576 Hz" for cutoff, "12.5 dB" for resonance, "-6.76 semi" for tuning, "967.4 ms" for envelope times, "65%" for sustain level, etc.

Is non-linear scaling that big a problem? Can't you just show the actual value + unit? That doesn't sound like it's too much to ask...

This would indeed be a welcome improvement, not only in Diva, but in ACE and Zebra as well...

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Yeah, I've been thinking about that... might get there one day...

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It would be most awesome :)

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Yes, this is some thing I don't like in all U-He plug-ins: the display units.

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You mean the lack of? :)

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